Return-Path: Received: from wb1-a.mail.utexas.edu ([128.83.126.134] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b5) with ESMTP-TLS id 166322 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:09:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 89812 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2004 16:09:16 -0000 Received: from dhcp-191-101.per.utexas.edu (HELO benefits3.mail.utexas.edu) (146.6.191.101) by wb1.mail.utexas.edu with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Jun 2004 16:09:16 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20040617110627.028c3928@localhost> X-Sender: msteitle@mail.utexas.edu@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:07:42 -0500 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" From: Mark Steitle Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: second belt on alternator In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Bill, I'll take a picture of my alternator/water pump setup tonight and send to you tomorrow. If there is any interest, I could send it to the Fly Rotary group also. Mark S. At 08:46 AM 6/17/2004 -0700, you wrote: >I would very much like to see a picture. > >My engine has an e-shaft drive pulley with room for two V-belts, as does >my 13-B water pump. My cowl will not allow installation of alternator on >top of engine, so it has to be on the plug side. I could run two belts >(identical) from water pump and alternator (need 2-groove alternator >pulley), but if one were to break, and cause the other to break, I would >lose all cooling (water pump). > >I considered a second alternator, so one belt drives each alternator, >located in different locations, with the thought (hope) that loss of one >belt would be less likely to lose the other. Most planes flying 60 amp >alternators or less have only one belt. > >A second thought was if I cannot fit in a second alternator, is to have >the second belt just drive the water pump, with an idler pulley, then if >alternator belt departs, the pump still works, and I can start looking for >a place to land using battery power. > >With all electric ignition, and fuel pumps, and EFIS, I need to address >redundancy. >Bill Schertz >KIS Cruiser # 4045 >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark Steitle >Sent: 6/17/2004 5:55:27 AM >To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net >Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: second belt on alternator > > > Bill, > > My 20B came setup for multiple belts. It has the multi-v type pulleys. I > > recently discovered that the 20B w/p pulley won't fit over a 13B w/p. I > > could take a picture of my dual alternator setup, if that would help. > > > > Mark S. > > > > At 06:25 AM 6/16/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > >I have been looking at how a redundant belt that would continue to > drive the > > >water pump could be installed, but have not found a viable routing. > > >Bill Schertz > > >KIS Cruiser # 4045 > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Wynn, Mike" > > >To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 12:43 AM > > >Subject: [FlyRotary] flyrotary Web Archive > > > > > > > > > > I hadn't thought of the advantages of a second independent belt to > act as > > >a > > > > back up for the water pump. Was actually thinking of an > thermostatically > > > > switched EWP as backup and trying to do something at the other end > of the > > > > motor. Any option to use the flywheel teeth to drive something or > is that > > >a > > > > silly one? > > > > Cheers > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html