Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #8774
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Power loss diagnostics
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 21:27:45 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Boy, John after reading your offer of free fuel, room and beer - I started packing - then I remembered my gearbox is at Tracy's for the retrofit of the 2.85 {:<( and I am not inclined to drive, sorry.
 
So John, difficult to make diagnostics from afar, but here goes.  Some of this is basic so don't be offended, often times that a good place to start.
 
1.  You need both fuel, spark and airflow to produce power.  A deficiency in one or all WILL reduce power (usually at the most critical time {:>)).  One thing that sort of bothers me about your installation is that without boost you should be able to get a closer to 4500-4800 rpm (A number of us get 5000 or more on take off).  Now if you have a lot of prop that of course could be part of the answer why your rpm is lower and also why you do get that great acceleration.  Actually, I am impressed at how little power that canard takes to stay in the air.  2500 rpm at 400 MSL on an 80F day would only give you around 70 HP! without any boost.
 
2.  Spark is generally either there and firing or not, so unless its some problems with fouled plugs, I would for the moment eliminate them as a cause.
 
3. That leaves fuel and air.  I use SCATT tube and have never had it collapse, you do have the type with the wire in it?  If it did collapse, reducing the throttle/airflow could allow it to open back up. Possible cause, but you would generally see it do this at maximum rpm and boost (max airflow) and I would think there would be some indication - like loose wire in the tube, torn around the wire, I mean try collapsing a length of it by hand - its not easy to do! Possible, but not at the top of my list.
 
4.  That leaves fuel.  Fuel will certainly affect your power, anything affecting fuel flow.  Two things cross my mind.  After you had coasted down and landed (giving the engine some time to cool off in descent) I believe you found you had regained your power.  Now there are two reason that come to mind.
 
a.  Could have had vapor lock.  I read your story two times and I could not find any place where you indicated you had checked your fuel pressure (I might have just missed it).  My experience has been anytime my engine has had a problem with fuel its been reflected in the fuel pressure gauge.  Vapor lock generally shows up as fluctuating fuel pressure.  Could the heat generated by the climbout have caused something like that whereby gliding back down give it time to cool down again , so you again have throttle response on the ground.
 
b.  Could have been mixture.  I sort of discount this one as if you are flying and everything is stable engine wise, the fuel requirements (and therefore mixture ) does not usually change abruptly enough to cause that kind of power loss.
 
If you want to discuss this further off line, just drop me a line or give me a call 704-821-7595.
 
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----
From: John Slade
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Power loss diagnostics

wrong again. My caps lock was on. Sorry.
 
 
 
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