Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #7786
From: Dean <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Tail Wing Incident
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 14:43:29 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 
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Subject: [FlyRotary] Tail Wing Incident

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Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 2:42 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector testing

 
I probably am overpropped at static and low speed.  I told Clark Lydick to build me a speed prop. I figured that being overpropped on take-off doesnt matter if you have lots of HP and can get off the ground in 1200 ft and climb like a banshee anyway. I'll be sending the prop back for adjustment once I get solid numbers, but I don't think I'll want him to cut it back much.
john Slade 
 
What sort of top speed, and cruise speed do you expect?  What would be common for an O-360 powered plane? 
 
Cheers,
Rusty (wishing the RV airfoil wasn't so draggy over 220 mph)
 
I used to think the same thing (draggy airfoil)  but I think the problem with RVs over 220 is related to wing / tail / fuselage incidence.   At 220 I get the visual impression that I am in a dive during level flight.
 
The early Citation jets used the same airfoil as the lowly RV.
 
Tracy
 
Tracy,
 
   As you known, the airflow over the horizontal tail is such as to exert down force on the tail (Nose up) to overcome the forward pitching movement of the CL of the wing airfoil.  I suspect that at the higher airspeeds the airflow over the wing could be changed sufficiently that the tail surface might be providing less downforce (nose up ) than required.    In otherwords the downforce on the horizontal stab  is sufficiently lessened that the nose lowers until the horizontal stab finds a new equilibrium point at your higher airspeed.  As nose goes down, more of the upper surface of the horiz stab is exposed to the airflow causing more down force/nose up until the new equilibrium is reached.  Just a thought.
 
 
 
Ed
 
Ed
 
Not questioning anything you just stated.  Keep in mind also, that with the dynamic pressure increasing as the square of the speed, the required angle of attack of the wing is reduced and the nose goes down from that alone.  I am not sure what the CL shift is as the AOA decreases with increase in speed.  Tracy is seeing AS numbers that I will never see on my 9A.
 
Dean Van Winkle    RV-9A   13B
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