Return-Path: <daveleonard@cox.net> Received: from fed1rmmtao02.cox.net ([68.230.241.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b2) with ESMTP id 3202271 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 02 May 2004 15:55:41 -0400 Received: from davidandanne ([68.111.224.107]) by fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20040502195523.GLTD21490.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@davidandanne> for <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>; Sun, 2 May 2004 15:55:23 -0400 From: "DaveLeonard" <daveleonard@cox.net> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector testing Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 12:55:32 -0700 Message-ID: <PIEMJLCHGPKMFMDHBKMLOEJECAAA.daveleonard@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C43044.C09F20E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <list-3202253@logan.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C43044.C09F20E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the suggestion Tracy. I'll do that but its not the whole problem. I cant get it to run well with any mixture setting (using manual adjustment). Thanks for the info Rusty. I have the stock primary injectors (52lb turbo) in the engine block and secondary MSD injectors in the throttle body 22in. away. The problem is unchanged if I run on either set of injectors alone. It is doing some strange things. I have a few more ideas I want to test then I'll post a complete problem summary. Dave Leonard -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Tracy Crook Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 12:23 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector testing One more suggestion. Make sure you are using minimum program width (Mode 2) when tuning in this region. Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell Duffy Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 2:32 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector testing I continue to work on problems with slow RPM smoothness. No solutions yet. I just cant get it to run in that region where the RPM is dropping but the manifold pressure is rising. I would like to get my injectors checked. Rusty, do you have the details of that company you sent your injectors to? Dave Leonard Hi Dave, I used RC Engineering. They're a whole lot closer to you, than they are to me :-) http://www.rceng.com/ Is this region where you close the throttle suddenly? Remind me again how far your injectors are from the ports. If they're a long way away, this just may not be fixable. My attempt to fix the problem will be a new intake probably. Cheers, Rusty (trying to be ready to fly with Tracy's old prop next weekend) ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C43044.C09F20E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY=20 style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; FONT: 10pt = verdana; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV><SPAN class=3D125414519-02052004><FONT face=3Dverdana>Thanks for = the suggestion=20 Tracy. I'll do that but its not the whole problem. I cant = get it to=20 run well with any mixture setting (using manual = adjustment).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D125414519-02052004><FONT=20 face=3Dverdana></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D125414519-02052004><FONT face=3Dverdana>Thanks for = the info=20 Rusty. I have the stock primary injectors (52lb turbo) in the = engine=20 block and secondary MSD injectors in the throttle body 22in. away. = The=20 problem is unchanged if I run on either set of injectors alone. It = is=20 doing some strange things. I have a few more ideas I want to test = then=20 I'll post a complete problem summary.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D125414519-02052004></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D125414519-02052004><FONT face=3Dverdana>Dave=20 Leonard</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Rotary motors = in=20 aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tracy = Crook<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 02, 2004 12:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B> = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft<BR><B>Subject:</B> [FlyRotary] Re: Injector=20 testing<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV>One more suggestion. Make sure you are using minimum = program width=20 (Mode 2) when tuning in this region.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tracy</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 Russell Duffy</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 02, 2004 = 2:32=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Rotary motors in = aircraft</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [FlyRotary] Re: = Injector=20 testing</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=3DGENERATOR> <DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma></FONT></DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT = face=3Dverdana>I=20 continue to work on problems with slow RPM smoothness. No = solutions=20 yet. I just cant get it to run in that region where the RPM is = dropping but the manifold pressure is rising. I would like to = get my=20 injectors checked. Rusty, do you have the details of that = company you=20 sent your injectors to?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT face=3Dverdana>Dave=20 Leonard</FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D3><SPAN=20 class=3D109152418-02052004> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D3><SPAN = class=3D109152418-02052004></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D3><SPAN class=3D109152418-02052004>Hi = Dave,</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D3><SPAN = class=3D109152418-02052004></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D3><SPAN class=3D109152418-02052004>I used RC = Engineering. They're=20 a whole lot closer to you, than they are to me :-) = <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.rceng.com/">http://www.rceng.com/</A></SPAN></FONT></S= PAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D3><SPAN = class=3D109152418-02052004></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D3><SPAN class=3D109152418-02052004>Is this region where you = close the=20 throttle suddenly? Remind me again how far your injectors are = from the=20 ports. If they're a long way away, this just may not be=20 fixable. My attempt to fix the problem will be a new = intake=20 probably. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D3><SPAN = class=3D109152418-02052004></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D3><SPAN = class=3D109152418-02052004>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750412916-02052004><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D3><SPAN class=3D109152418-02052004>Rusty (trying to be ready = to fly=20 with Tracy's old prop next=20 weekend)</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTM= L> ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C43044.C09F20E0--