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From: "DaveLeonard" <daveleonard@cox.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector testing
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 12:55:32 -0700
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Thanks for the suggestion Tracy.  I'll do that but its not the whole
problem.  I cant get it to run well with any mixture setting (using manual
adjustment).

Thanks for the info Rusty.  I have the stock primary injectors (52lb turbo)
in the engine block and secondary MSD injectors in the throttle body 22in.
away.  The problem is unchanged if I run on either set of injectors alone.
It is doing some strange things.  I have a few more ideas I want to test
then I'll post a complete problem summary.

Dave Leonard
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On
Behalf Of Tracy Crook
  Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 12:23 PM
  To: Rotary motors in aircraft
  Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector testing


  One more suggestion.  Make sure you are using minimum program width (Mode
2) when tuning in this region.

  Tracy

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Russell Duffy
    Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 2:32 PM
    To: Rotary motors in aircraft
    Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector testing

    I continue to work on problems with slow RPM smoothness.  No solutions
yet.  I just cant get it to run in that region where the RPM is dropping but
the manifold pressure is rising.  I would like to get my injectors checked.
Rusty, do you have the details of that company you sent your injectors to?

    Dave Leonard

    Hi Dave,

    I used RC Engineering.  They're a whole lot closer to you, than they are
to me :-)  http://www.rceng.com/

    Is this region where you close the throttle suddenly?  Remind me again
how far your injectors are from the ports.  If they're a long way away,
this just may not be fixable.  My attempt to fix the problem will be a new
intake probably.

    Cheers,
    Rusty (trying to be ready to fly with Tracy's old prop next weekend)

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  <DIV>One more suggestion.&nbsp; Make sure you are using minimum =
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