Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #7684
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] ECU wiring
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:12:21 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I'll take a stab at your questions, Paul.
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
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To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:25 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] ECU wiring

> Hi, fellow rotary enthusiasts.  My 13b is running pretty well with my Micro
> Tech ECU.  I keep thinking that even though it's running OK, I might have
> something wired incorrectly, or that could be improved upon. I know that
> most of you are using Tracy's ECU, but since they both accomplish the same
> task, I thought I could ask a couple of questions to compare my system to
> Tracy's.
>       The wiring schematic shows a red wire going from the positive side of
> the battery, through a 30 amp fuse, and to one side of the injectors. That
> would put power to the injectors at all times, even if the ignition switch
> is in the OFF position.  I understand that the injectors, however will not
> fire until the ECU sends a ground signal to the other wire on the injector.
> Is this common practice?  Does Tracy's system work in a similar manner?
 
The two fuel injection systems I have employed (HALTECH and Tracy's EC2) both have power directly to the inejctors.  The injectors should not activate or consume any power unless the ECU is operating - that is grounding one of the leads to each injector.  I do have a 30 amp circuit breaker in my injector power line
I personally would not want that line going through my ignition switch.  There is pulsating voltage on that line when the injectors are firing and running that wire around under your instrument panel could increase the chances for electronic interference.  Too many circuits tied to the ignition switch is something I would also avoid.
 

>       The schematic shows the red wires that go to the 4 Bosch coils goes
> through the ignition switch first. That made sense to me.
 
That sounds reasonable to me as well.   Although in my case, the  power to my Mazda coils also goes through a CB and not through the ignition switch. Basically, my ignition switch does one thing , it enables the starter button.  My power to my Ec2 is controlled by a toggle switch which also provides power to my starter contactor - so both my keyed ignition switch (actually starter enable switch) and my EC2 toggle must be on for the engine to be started by pushing a starter button.  A safety feature that makes three actions necessary to engage the starter and start the engine and unlikely all three would accidently be turned on.
 
Key switch on - enables starter button
Toggle Swith on - power to EC2 and starter contactor
Starter Button that causes starter contactor to close and provide power to the starter.
 
 

>      I have a small terminal strip on the cold side of the firewall that
> gets it's power straight from the ignition switch, so I could easily swap
> the "constantly hot" wire that goes from the positive side of my battery to
> the injectors, disconnect it and attach it to the "ignition on" power strip
> so that the injectors only get power with the ignition switch in the ON
> position.
>       Not sure if this really matters....I wasn't so sure it would be good
> to have constant power going to the injectors from the battery.  However,
> that's how the heavy starter wire is....Direct power to the starter from the
> positive side of the battery.
 
If you put your injector power line on your ignition switch you have probably more than doubled the current running through it, so make certain the switch can handle it - I personally would not do it.  Not trusting any single switch (and I purchased the best I could find) all of my critical systems have a power line to them that goes through a 30 amp circuit breaker than is normally open - should a critical switch fail, I can push in the CB bypassing those switches and insure continued power to my critical circuits - I call it my "Live Man Switch" {:>). Did I mention I was a bit Anal about redundancy??
 

>       I sure would appreciate any and all opinions on this.  It does run OK
> as is....I'm just wondering if there are any safety concerns, etc about
> leaving power to one side of the injectors even when the plane is not being
> used.
I would think not.  You have a fuse (I would have a CB but that's just my personal bias) that should any injector wiring short to ground, it should blow and prevent any further damage.  Just consider the injectors as coils of wire (which they are electrically) and then they are no different that any other wire you might have power to continuously.
 

>       Thanks for everyone's attempt in clearing this up for me.  Paul
> Conner, 13b powered SQ2000 in Mobile, AL
>
Paul, there is one consideration that has occurred to me.  How is the Micro Tech EFI circuit triggered?  When I used the HALTECH, you had to have a trigger signal from the ignition system.  I initially had mine triggered off of my leading ignition coil.  One day my engine died (fortunately on the ground)  and I found that the leading coil had died.  That puzzled me at first as I had the trailing coil which should have kept things running, until I realized that when the leading coil died so did my EFI trigger!!!! So no fuel was being injected!
 
After that I rigged a switch so I could get a EFI triggering signal off either coil.  Tracy's EC2 uses the crank angle sensor which is about as reliable as a spinning hunk of magnet and a stational pick up coil can be and of course either of his Controllers will continue to trigger both ignition units.
 
Thats about all I can think of.
 
Ed Anerson
 
 
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