X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-KAS-Score: 0 [] From: "Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au" Received: from mail-ed1-f54.google.com ([209.85.208.54] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.4.0) with ESMTPS id 2550627 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 10:32:33 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.54; envelope-from=andrew@martinag.com.au Received: by mail-ed1-f54.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-53e08e439c7so6148700a12.0 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 07:32:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=martinag-com-au.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1698589934; x=1699194734; darn=lancaironline.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=GxmN6EEqSnrOBf/kKcwIACu8W/aiCFGyJ37sc2/Gw28=; b=hE+OGr1lX0J++grtgfQB909W7ayjz9hyne0/QP84tkd0NESSX3Tgi0WxbslYEXBwE4 wNeayClX9D79YrqaovsRPNBRK+yJIGDclLXS1hsy3t2frjq1PerdHY4+cS78+HOLU6yp zKZrUnbNNLh1Gw9sk8OHwqaM/cpQBtMotGfOkdvE3BgFjM/sKa9K97DlYu5Ct0sA7kXk q3qdXnvWG2k+GttMEzmJq1lBNQDFmQzb9OGrJpAsO57kJ4Ib00rSGvxDd3LmMfhjx4rU oEnmqpHsO5xCOwyDP9gsXcvMB2w8+E8mxe8f2dnCRfyVDAHr8ux3oXVqwcMQy92ov+96 eEWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698589934; x=1699194734; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=GxmN6EEqSnrOBf/kKcwIACu8W/aiCFGyJ37sc2/Gw28=; b=c+hdZFut2Srk282kV5VNVEjjQtdw1pBwZoDwq8yHYuS1WV3BDOvaHPsSz/uDLShXxZ 750Bw82fFirxcEno1IarpKrvhGlcskrYOujrHbajr09UI4Xxmk7vrKF0mJqBmJ5FNk42 uXiNI/r0E8gOGrmc2y3sCHZGpyAalUsBKoMFj805MQH3PpoFo0eL2kAAR2jpn6TXaNAI sQI3/mTVnZq/0SAqekn9Vj2KpWXf1r82W5s06TW/L/TULIfFZGLN4PG3cBqlh5hGhCCH QdAtMXil+8YRVj31HEwBXULnfBSVti6uqyLjZ7wOqCg7RXZpBcepGizevGWRwy0xChTr Cw4A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzIZEo8OGcdvqnRKmZy8K5HwToZ0zV1tLWuiWAusNMhdN/BoH5y jMTEc71Z9cgY+s4TVf1IkCytYsNImEEVLj5mzTn7fO33x4hIpBzBPg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF4nOue0ZaSD5e0RCZ7yvnGU9sdCafR6Iv0vuOR7wGSzU2g+KUsLdu5FdiHBAMyvDybARbF5q+bEtG8FuJRR0Y= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:dc93:b0:9ca:e7ce:8e60 with SMTP id cs19-20020a170906dc9300b009cae7ce8e60mr6950783ejc.41.1698589934359; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 07:32:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 22:31:36 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Updates on Muffler Experiences? To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a828240608dbc99b" --000000000000a828240608dbc99b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Doug, My setup is for a Renesis so bit different to an 86 13b, what I found worked well is a short & compact muffler, all homemade, a 60mm perforated ss tube welded to the mazda renesis exhaust manifold that was shortened as much as possible. I perforated the 60mm tube with 10mm drilled holes, enough so area of drilled holes is same as pipe inlet. A 100mm ss tube covers the 60mm tube and outlet of 100mm is at same end as inlet of 60mm, this is important to send sound waves back to source (works similar theory to ANR headset apparently). muffler is short, approx 150mm to keep it rigid & fit the space next to the psru. end plates of muffler were cut from 6mm plate & fully welded to both inner & outer tubes and covered with lightweight tin can as heatshield. If I was using p port exhaust I would mount individual mufflers directly to each port, inner pipe same size same as port, would look like 2 cans protruding from side of engine, connect short tailpipes (same volume as inner perforated pipe) as close to engine end of outer pipe as possible to exit cowl. Idea is to send sound waves straight back to where they come from without restricting gas flow. Probably as clear as mud, but my 2 cents worth, works a treat. Cheers Andrew Martin --000000000000a828240608dbc99b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Doug,=C2=A0
My s= etup is for a Renesis so bit different=C2=A0to an 86 13b, what I found work= ed well is a short & compact muffler, all homemade, a 60mm perforated s= s tube welded to the mazda renesis exhaust manifold that was shortened as m= uch as possible. I perforated=C2=A0the 60mm tube with 10mm drilled holes, e= nough so area of drilled holes is same=C2=A0as pipe inlet.=C2=A0 A 100mm ss= tube covers the 60mm tube and outlet of 100mm is at same end as inlet of 6= 0mm, this is important to=C2=A0send sound waves back to source (works simil= ar theory to ANR headset apparently). muffler is short, approx=C2=A0150mm t= o keep it rigid & fit the space next to the psru. end plates of muffler= were cut from 6mm plate & fully welded to both inner & outer tubes= and covered with lightweight tin can as heatshield.
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If I was using p port exhaust I would mount indi= vidual mufflers directly to each port, inner pipe same size same as port, w= ould look like 2 cans protruding from side of engine, connect short tailpip= es (same volume as inner perforated pipe) as close to engine end of outer p= ipe as possible to exit cowl. Idea is to send sound waves straight back to = where they come from without restricting gas flow.
Pr= obably as clear as mud, but my 2 cents worth, works a treat.
Cheers
Andrew Martin
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