X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-KAS-Score: 0 [] From: "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com" Received: from mail-yw1-f169.google.com ([209.85.128.169] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.4.0) with ESMTPS id 2380469 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:34:09 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.128.169; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-yw1-f169.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-592976e5b6dso48827277b3.2 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:34:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1694482433; x=1695087233; darn=lancaironline.net; h=in-reply-to:from:content-language:references:to:subject:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=RN/WeBgcOW6DdOsvosIAI0ccPMmyKusLkLgVUipDxYA=; b=l0yTGcxqTfp0+PBp9NTlBeTGxzyvoGT9X8/ZROMW9AD/H8dxkcYw1Mt8RFA7fdGs6x W74bTNoNE2i3411gX0U3EdKdScPucQyfeOi+sR9GEH9G2o9XnoJJ3hXVj7wVNzFPwl9Z IKk8vKLl/AkvHXAwV6wc4ZDvPKQn0glKUfF1GD6w/8HvHQBkaVItPvLpGpp/MohePPXB DpuA8oB/2DNlGszMt8UcTad46VAYklydqEHMDyptjYkFOoJpq6tzwfhZzP6aLq/LIFjf oat27K639YgijxM1TscGVME7hUCOF8FTuRC75S8LdfNk1ZRaUWhdY+PHEGYWZNEz7h0N /ugw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694482433; x=1695087233; h=in-reply-to:from:content-language:references:to:subject:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=RN/WeBgcOW6DdOsvosIAI0ccPMmyKusLkLgVUipDxYA=; b=Xw5pYYwmU95GKXu2qDdVZEw+Pq2tmLc1/rrXtKkYYg/h3dBs7ArDud71QR+FovS08z 85B4ZvKe4nLGf6sY77GSkeg0Az0siWjhFDjDboaquYTgtlWnH5hPsIfU7YXKxFWZW8Sm 1QulilGLr+/6/RsHbToWrW2+Z1Pm34ikKSu8fH1qZSP/yd+MpAHRXIpZmLLPbfZTHQJd G691WTM3YiNH3yscpJ6pLkdMW2HXjX5eng9rArTmioq+9FPeFm6rR99woeiVWmavhPx2 7Z5RNbP1tceOri+/Sh/kWDSd4leNXRP4srdd1wIpZ7tNLVWx8hStYHqnFK5nQinjSybI dGyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyug7ZVU91E1GQfVb3lV9Rj9+szKwFuF2JUBnrTLP5bARA7r5Vj jACszWkvAsSMlUyIuhPdMS8L55b5vrE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFtYhLnEwZMkGTo1ZP9inupsgNWymtOqUC4Hzem/EBLEkUZJ0yT7RP/BBAKc5m+QTekb69GWw== X-Received: by 2002:a0d:e847:0:b0:59b:4f10:9d18 with SMTP id r68-20020a0de847000000b0059b4f109d18mr11331525ywe.23.1694482432918; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.205] ([50.86.156.24]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x188-20020a0deec5000000b00592236855cesm2254415ywe.61.2023.09.11.18.33.51 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------nRSNjQjoGaH0Yi69qnhCsH79" Message-ID: <1b8292d9-c722-108d-cb9e-2a703829df75@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 20:37:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.0 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Mitsubishi Alternator To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 230911-6, 9/11/2023), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------nRSNjQjoGaH0Yi69qnhCsH79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 9/11/2023 6:42 PM, DOUGLAS LOMHEIM dlomheim@aol.com wrote: > Tommy James flew this alternator with the 13B I bought from him in about 2006, and I’d like to run it in my install but was wondering how to hook it up. I assume the “L” would run to the failure lite, and the “S” is the “Field” circuit maybe? > > Doug 'S' typically means 'Sense'; it's to measure voltage at the load. Long lines or resistance in the lines can result in undercharging the battery if output voltage is sensed directly at the B terminal. 'L' is typically for the idiot light, as  you thought. 'B' is the output (fat) terminal. There should be another terminal labeled 'IG' or 'I' or something similar. It's used to turn on the regulator at initial engine start. Some newer alternators will shut down if power is removed from the IG terminal, but most older ones cannot be shut down once they come alive. (Even if removing power from the IG shuts the alt down, it can't be relied on to shut it down if there's an internal failure in the regulator inside the alt. Most internal regulators are in the ground path of the field, so if the output transistor in the regulator fails shorted, the regulator cannot control the field and removing power from IG will have no effect. Here's a 'typical' diagram for an internally regulated alternator. Hope it helps. :-) Voltage Regulator (int.) / How it works | IH8MUD Forum -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com --------------nRSNjQjoGaH0Yi69qnhCsH79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 9/11/2023 6:42 PM, DOUGLAS LOMHEIM dlomheim@aol.com wrote:
Tommy James flew this alternator with the 13B I bought from him in about 2006, and I’d like to run it in my install but was wondering how to hook it up.  I assume the “L” would run to the failure lite, and the “S” is the “Field” circuit maybe?  

Doug
'S' typically means 'Sense'; it's to measure voltage at the load. Long lines or resistance in the lines can result in undercharging the battery if output voltage is sensed directly at the B terminal.

'L' is typically for the idiot light, as  you thought.

'B' is the output (fat) terminal.

There should be another terminal labeled 'IG' or 'I' or something similar. It's used to turn on the regulator at initial engine start. Some newer alternators will shut down if power is removed from the IG terminal, but most older ones cannot be shut down once they come alive. (Even if removing power from the IG shuts the alt down, it can't be relied on to shut it down if there's an internal failure in the regulator inside the alt. Most internal regulators are in the ground path of the field, so if the output transistor in the regulator fails shorted, the regulator cannot control the field and removing power from IG will have no effect.

Here's a 'typical' diagram for an internally regulated alternator. Hope it helps. :-)
Voltage Regulator (int.) / How it works | IH8MUD Forum

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