X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) From: "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com" Received: from mail-ot1-f51.google.com ([209.85.210.51] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 1367051 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 18:52:19 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.51; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-ot1-f51.google.com with SMTP id 68-20020a9d0f4a0000b02901b663e6258dso3479807ott.13 for ; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 15:52:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=PfkQEDfNplgqET9M++EC+Wp4jn8/8HUgpUDLLBc16Wc=; b=jMg7mWmeMOtpBhqjd2mn3FtvcwmXfZmGC/mEylLY4TitlUQdDt6SEvhAuEXlJGccC7 uVBQNc7pZVeejiRM07mgKHm4NSQzqyx59TwHeHuThm/iGGjVxClKWdeTBcU1yP6AdPyE Nu5KgJFpn/50Rkbeu5Ozq3HBJDns2cANM2E8j40bm4rXY7DD1WwF3T5SPQKoSxRwM8d9 iKWfiVPIi7rWqk5T4oqgajWnO33nBWrqKJDwJuX1f5aj3PV9tdHdeuNGipgZcfpsQtdw ekJFxiMNkxmkiB1UVvIOTTQaeYCVOVquNRxXsbl9ZPZJkgU18dS7QqkZ6tbywKlFBFEu Ahvg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=PfkQEDfNplgqET9M++EC+Wp4jn8/8HUgpUDLLBc16Wc=; b=joCmUTpuTWh3WtWbqQhbL50BmPn2+QXt1gCFiiJ1EYAzL21aFpb6XVyUXrcEqppyCd yOiKwt9roiY81EqvShtHUfUcPHOPCqYuAhcfiJkjzpBQI/2N2dKfkren7NCKmW6BjJxd eh94dS6V6y37EeQ/MyQXovj8rPsAwMITO5thzFyu9NyTQtpiAMLfLgKEkAQh20Xt2yiG 67PM5Z6KeGR0UsqPkt3URJBsWdJ1PkDLRpdWYnjaEcFWGpKmwbIrFk47r5KP5kocwD80 EZ4OHBIYnH0UcNycy64N3LNUR8RGwZ7RFFe2O8b1f+XgkaD1OF0UMjPZMa5Hrs+zXVpP 1VGA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Uamne6efEEkpcvQb1bXIKtPuXfwsBUhukgZ5x+rR9aXMvmOf3 m6ZhmdH4dsFrrp/o0E/eOJ7Wvc9ZWWk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwhUukm54Re+hgeiQaIf9FHFnWnRpn8fc+kC6P7paxdpzZY8t72Pa26bbFPxqiEiCzhWi/yNw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1e14:: with SMTP id s20mr9272152otr.199.1617317523663; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 15:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ?IPv6:::1? ([2607:fb90:d04f:76c6:242a:6ee9:fa9d:6f8e]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id m16sm1445321otj.11.2021.04.01.15.52.02 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Apr 2021 15:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: MISTRAL To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 17:54:59 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 210401-0, 04/01/2021), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Hey Le Roux, I think your iphone ate your homework. ;-) Part of the message seems to be missing. Charlie On 4/1/2021 4:35 PM, Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com wrote: > Check this thread about intake runner lenght,anwers on a lott of 13B engines and intake runner lenght and > > Sent from my iPhone > Le Roux Breytenbach > >> On 01 Apr 2021, at 19:23, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: >> >> 4 port or 6 port? It's been a long time since I had the manifold off the engine, but I *think* my 4 port engine has same size pri & sec ports. I know I used the same size tubing to make the manifold. I believe that the '3rdary' ports on a 6 port are smaller, but I think Steve Boese found that they don't do anything at our more reasonable rpms. >> >> Charlie >> >>> On 4/1/2021 12:05 PM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote: >>> Thanks Ed. >>> >>> What I meant to say is that Tracy implied that secondary runners should have a larger diameter. >>> >>> But I made them the same (inside diameter) as the holes in the block (30 mm). >>> >>> Finn >>> >>>> On 4/1/2021 11:07 AM, eanderson@carolina.rr.com wrote: >>>> Smaller dia may mean that airflow velocity is higher than in the primaries and since the secondary valves open at higher rpms, the higher airflow velocity may help stuff more air into the chamber give the shorter duration the port is open at higher rpm. Just a WAG. >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net" >>>> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >>>> Sent: 4/1/2021 8:48:31 AM >>>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: MISTRAL >>>> >>>>> Tracy remarked on my secondary runners being smaller diameter than primaries and now I see the same here. >>>>> >>>>> If I recall correctly, when I calculated the area of the secondaries vs the area of the primaries (in the engine block) I got smaller secondaries than primaries. >>>>> >>>>> What gives? >>>>> >>>>> Finn >>>>> >>>>> On 3/31/2021 9:44 PM, Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> Primary Runner length approximately........24 inches >>>>>> Primary Runner "OD" approximately.........1.40 inches >>>>>> Secondary Runner length approximately.....24 inches >>>>>> Secondary Runner "OD" approximately.......1.66 inches >>>>> -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus