X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pj1-f47.google.com ([209.85.216.47] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 1326984 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:34:05 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.47; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pj1-f47.google.com with SMTP id w8so5290974pjf.4 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:34:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=0wbhauU7PfQeRGx7ZRrQ8+rnvSGS99q3GWWtjuxYzXI=; b=QqnSgAuHa/8X2M0KGI/iSNjX8mGi50jFxCnzgnXpIvBUN0sRcZfM2GTczuwE1EvY2+ lkNw1vXUy0KUG8JaGXXD0ja1w5BwcHGa7XEpW5+2YymOb8TQlF8mZCYx/EVUOP9rdjWY /RR7encQIhzCLhAkL5ry1s3HniBhtsHaqLeigbfUsUtCHAzqfFApBqPp4bJt8ip5KM7z ZebdIcqX44tRP3/F5ki8n5FvAnfM33esTCDraDH10/WsSUXPGPBeQIPKcH7oyeGCR+VC 9SDk+Qp1GCF+5r6kZHdy9S5ysmjAFfVcvDl5eCrGEPOTZq6U/uAAQuZSWPm71v/0GKaW uLUA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=0wbhauU7PfQeRGx7ZRrQ8+rnvSGS99q3GWWtjuxYzXI=; b=G5r24Gj/dDXpXU1ESmYt1SQyUSE5etDoQhdBNK08RifrO45cQ7faUiUf7yESvu003d NZXOVrC6r8iByAVRyySgNXv27X4ATg3mol0kkTIS7DRmyWifdzCeZmLG9CRwSnbOBybS uwQsRbxOiOK0d3OlwQhnUG3pl2ebODnlb8Mi2oRqMhstrzw7XmqVfJdwJGtTvr2GAvsG 6MSY1UBpxkYpHPkVz3F6DY0ZS4Lbb0f3VJVVg9FSX3+ko5hHWNnGRngxIJp/DVGuwkDE R5np6ffolWfo5DJIM0+QhMsvHBWTWHpXs6n71Y7qQby0Yl5lWcT+Kl+c9ryVCgYSAL/M Dtvg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530a4E2Ug75AkGusOvKZ8WCnNJBW6CJvUrAPoiwX2srjLGGbce/H 8mXk1d52/Hz0iMLIALNA+ZPHAmU2OcM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzEM4AZHfRUCjX9kHwWOW/0xQURaQQxRd8cAl62YhBovRrZQWQPjMhNqazjAAi/6IfQ90j0pw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:fd0b:: with SMTP id cv11mr469634pjb.183.1616189628264; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from macbook-pro.lan (220-235-91-9.dyn.iinet.net.au. [220.235.91.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 38sm6113176pgk.30.2021.03.19.14.33.47 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] dynamic balance Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 05:33:44 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) So it lined up with one of the rubber damper bolts and you didn't need = to distribute the weight across two bolt locations? Thanks for the information Steve. Steve I > On 20 Mar 2021, at 4:38 am, Sboese sboese@uwyo.edu = wrote: >=20 > About 8 grams at one corner after the phase angle indicated the light = spot was aligned with that corner. >=20 > Steve Boese=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 >> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:57 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BF=E2=97=86 This message was sent from a non-UWYO address. = Please exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments from = external sources. >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks Steve B. >> Do you recall how much weight was required to balance the engine at = the flex plate? >> Steve Izett >>=20 >>> On 19 Mar 2021, at 9:40 am, Steven W. Boese SBoese@uwyo.edu = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I did not try the procedure described by Finn where a weight was = attached at the four cardinal locations. >>>=20 >>> I used a Freescale MMA7260Q eval board as the 3 axis accelerometer, = a USB 6009 as an A to D unit and Signalexpress software both from = National Instruments, and a laptop computer to collect and process the = data. >>>=20 >>> The photo shows the setup for balancing the prop. The position = reference Hall effect sensor was installed on the red mount and clamped = to redrive. The sensor and mount were covered in modeling clay to = dampen resonance vibrations possible in this mount. The Hall effect = trigger was attached to the prop flange with double sided tape along = with an equal weight attached in the same way 180 degrees from the = trigger. The accelerometer is seen behind the red clamp and was = installed in a 1/4=E2=80=9D aluminum plate. This was screwed to a = second 1/4=E2=80=9D aluminum plate which was bonded to the redrive with = epoxy putty. Before the engine was started, a =E2=80=9Cthump test=E2=80=9D= was performed by striking the accelerometer lightly with a rubber = hammer and recording the results in order to verify the stiffness of the = accelerometer mount. The balance was adjusted by adding washers under = the screws which attach the spinner to the aft bulkhead and at the = angular location indicated by the processed data. The final balancing = weight was in the form of washers, nut, and bolt installed in the aft = spinner bulkhead. This weight took into account the difference in the = radius from the center of the prop shaft to the test washers under the = spinner screws compared to the radius to the location of the balancing = bolt, nut, and washers. >>>=20 >>> The engine was balanced by locating the Hall effect position sensor = where it would see a trigger attached to one of the damper plate to flex = plate bolts with an equal weight attached to the opposite bolt. Washers = of various weights were installed under two of the bolts until the = unbalance phase angle was aligned with one of the four bolts. Then the = weight under that bolt was adjusted until the balance was acceptable. >>>=20 >>> Steve Boese >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html