X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Neil Unger" Received: from mail-pg0-f50.google.com ([74.125.83.50] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c3) with ESMTPS id 9952468 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:29:46 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.83.50; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id c14so11186719pgn.0 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:29:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=dJZ+QnCbkiwa3m+pjbrpXwseP4lUaWHPyfKoY3PiwHE=; b=Zqxkwtfx/0vJkmZDmqtLFsHqVMMbGjIa9tf9ykDS01nr95kSr9Aa6dw43u2UNK3sGZ dwQydodH75DCZw6qHist9tCau3YXFo1TJAHVf6YH/ZPT6QCfChFyjCW2OhD4q0b9vVFq mmGcsrayPU+dBDGMKUMm4TwCWjr1MNH7C134P4y1Yc2t2R1CYsqg0t+H8ID8DTkhFSjQ TG3nwBjogPEEkLANC0QX8gHofzjS5fBt5sV2jFLkBE0FA1mHPMHysszicVx9qhvSSEMI HQxia4Lwo9dwefin8SXzbfj9f3mA+/IYQk67pLyPX56mEob5FXNPmyeGE2BHPTiU7Aiq 5b/A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=dJZ+QnCbkiwa3m+pjbrpXwseP4lUaWHPyfKoY3PiwHE=; b=quvmjuOAeJZlOUAlKCIEG7OCvVjRDCgYQi2GnGnVMOasW2PkELv7Be+Zi5qqLLJ1N4 vJhie/blQdGDXCscs1qp4p6VE7WMigeFlaRQZxv7lSNRPAU0FQE6yMiXKWzRzoUsljLU unmauX4N+HLCVOlzRgpb/3yFhqU7u4+3/8T+vJXrrShaHCBA4Swrt8QXk8dWacgCD2tx Z1e8U8VXzYLG0MyE+mlLmtNViv5OABIub5w0kZpfM72tCF8OEsx1R6xMMIEaTBhTa1hn kDeZrgJ+LJQkbn7W74KH7Do4vpay4YlMIyBRc4monSvz/hPs/NkXx+6/oWcOGm/waVVo BmYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw110ZT+liG4depOqTgMQedTXHHH6oxC6GqJuw/HQmf6a2OjbDrms6 g9r5E+EEKany8/ILREI= X-Received: by 10.99.45.194 with SMTP id t185mr5464766pgt.388.1501198169279; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s14sm38808218pfj.124.2017.07.27.16.29.26 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: fuel consumption gauge To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 09:28:25 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------8A266CEDB50E43047140178B" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8A266CEDB50E43047140178B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew, You were right! Rang Stewart Parker from NZ and looks like $50 cheaper than OZ! Plus he knows all about hooking up to injectors! Just organising delivery now. His price is $236 NZ plus freight approx $30. Thanks Neil. On 7/28/2017 8:13 AM, Andrew Martin wrote: > Neil. Chapter 10.6 on page 23 > http://lightflying.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Vega-FF-4.pdf > I like and use MGL equipment as it is good and customisable. But the > local dealer could be better. Manufacturer at > http://www.mglavionics.co.za/contact.html let them know of your > experience, other dealers will ship international but Aus dealer > prices fair if you just get what you need. > Andrew > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 at 5:31 am, Neil Unger > > wrote: > > Interesting! I dealt with the Oz rep and was not impressed at > all. No real knowledge when it came to the finer points. Do they > have the manual on the web site? Neil. > > > On 7/27/2017 8:51 PM, Andrew Martin wrote: >> Thats the trouble when dimwits don't know the equipment they're >> selling, you get told you need something you actually dont. >> That FF-4 unit definately works coupled to the injectors. Should >> only cost $388 inc gst and postage as thats what it is listed as. >> Listed on manufacturers website for R2377.00 which converts to >> AUD229.00, so dealer has a fair margin. >> >> On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 at 5:15 pm, Neil Unger >> > > wrote: >> >> Thanks Andrew, but the sly sods want 2 flow meters as well >> for the low price of $1200 All up plus fittings, say $1500. >> Neil. >> >> >> On 7/27/2017 9:34 AM, Andrew Martin wrote: >>> Neil. >>> >>> Done the google search for you, available in Aus $388.00 >>> http://lightflying.com.au/vega-singles/ >>> likely to be other makes available also, >>> >>> Mgl say they are now open source, so completely configurable >>> if your so inclined. or just use as is. worked for me. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Andrew Martin >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Neil, lots of options out there, both Tracy's & Ed's >>> engine monitors will do what you want. MGL Vega single >>> FF-4 would be a good option also. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Neil Unger >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> Gents, Is anyone aware of a fuel consumption gauge >>> that will give fuel consumption in real time? I can >>> get one that has two flow meters but that makes >>> installation complicated and not really cost >>> effective. I am looking for something that works >>> off the injectors. As usual it has to be "tweaked" >>> with actual fuel usage. Did not Tracy have such a >>> system? Neil. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.htm >>> >>> > -- > Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag --------------8A266CEDB50E43047140178B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Andrew,   You were right!  Rang Stewart Parker from NZ and looks like $50 cheaper than OZ!  Plus he knows all about hooking up to injectors!   Just organising delivery now.  His price is $236 NZ plus freight approx $30.  Thanks Neil.


On 7/28/2017 8:13 AM, Andrew Martin wrote:
I like and use MGL equipment as it is good and customisable. But the local dealer could be better. Manufacturer at http://www.mglavionics.co.za/contact.html let them know of your experience,  other dealers will ship international but Aus dealer prices fair if you just get what you need.
Andrew

On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 at 5:31 am, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Interesting!  I dealt with the Oz rep and was not impressed at all.  No real knowledge when it came to the finer points.  Do they have the manual on the web site?  Neil.


On 7/27/2017 8:51 PM, Andrew Martin wrote:
Thats the trouble when dimwits don't know the equipment they're selling, you get told you need something you actually dont.
That FF-4 unit definately works coupled to the injectors. Should only cost $388 inc gst and postage as thats what it is listed as. Listed on manufacturers website for R2377.00 which converts to AUD229.00, so dealer has a fair margin. 

On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 at 5:15 pm, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Thanks Andrew, but the sly sods want 2 flow meters as well for the low price of  $1200 All up plus fittings, say $1500.  Neil.


On 7/27/2017 9:34 AM, Andrew Martin wrote:
Neil.

Done the google search for you, available in Aus $388.00 http://lightflying.com.au/vega-singles/
likely to be other makes available also,

Mgl say they are now open source, so completely configurable if your so inclined. or just use as is. worked for me.

Andrew




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Andrew Martin <andrew@martinag.com.au> wrote:
Neil, lots of options out there, both Tracy's & Ed's engine monitors will do what you want. MGL Vega single FF-4 would be a good option also.

Andrew
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Gents,  Is anyone aware of a fuel consumption  gauge that will give fuel consumption in real time?  I can get one that has two flow meters but that makes installation complicated and not really cost effective.  I am looking for something that works off the injectors.  As usual it has to be "tweaked" with actual fuel usage.  Did not Tracy have such a system?  Neil.


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