X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Charlie England" Received: from mail-pg0-f42.google.com ([74.125.83.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c3) with ESMTPS id 9950539 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 08:33:38 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.83.42; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id c14so4985395pgn.0 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 05:33:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QizsRdQgd+dHmtu3DcqdH9um6MFwEQJComKtJMkkMdg=; b=kLAYe9IptK/Owj1ih4StfnY7WXI9H9+LrmwhMnpgcEahe+qnCMOWP4AclnyaL16U9a Togr1WKhwqwhLJnkAHcvsR1nmB/Q6odbki+ezbvZn3yAxtieNZrXuMlFg2LlTJwi0M+G GLfDeL4k4tOoJweOOvG7YLfWp7gA1dS1pDzoJ4iqS5FYcd/hcFu12RcWWBlnvPcEVSqg I+2s9+V8Aw1ORYspk7a+MNmPmyMKlG/8njRl9Tt53gH3BHO5Xdv2iqUol1rOOKnkNF2H AA1TJUPE2cVHG9dl3B9OX4jqEH5Il+xtOHixyj5Q1HB1i7hiKJ5Yh9+OlKOrcg3ROwD4 XC0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=QizsRdQgd+dHmtu3DcqdH9um6MFwEQJComKtJMkkMdg=; b=TWN17MedzXzxoPGFpD9RvbMOPsvRQdaXfiObcC5dI4KrVF+g0dsqFPZOG35tJEBpJF W3SMK5SL7eyemYEmK0gc3jQmhkZSSid01wQnGc7sdzU5Uty7ximo9CK5xLKkQa1E3Niz suFpML0fatgwLKdhSGKUnCWocJVrYNs0hq/N31roDuRo37erz4S3EHmbeCAX24ilW8wx WUGxJrOh7q9FgSAB3WlY9W2IWjWqho4mdVFD+/BnuhbQ6SChVihseFR+YNELroZgA7gg 2W9XhuQhdxGF1wz8DJHbpDMo7EpoqzSHaOGiEKkBQp+Afhqae5clJkEb3xJs1K4NjOFl 92cg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw110pMNxmB5dgQbvkq+IWkdSwdN8DjaSOSz3gzHclYoafASM6bL5x InvvnGcQZeUcYiQo03mekW2nQL9bIRvG X-Received: by 10.84.176.3 with SMTP id u3mr4273312plb.134.1501158800188; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 05:33:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.150.208 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 05:33:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 07:33:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: fuel consumption gauge To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c119656096b2605554bc5b5" --94eb2c119656096b2605554bc5b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Neil, See earlier posts, by myself and Steve Boese. Ebay links right now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/FC-10-Fuel-Computer-fuel-flow-meter/172789152690?_t= rksid=3Dp2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=3Daid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26= ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D7856090ce870446b969f7d6274d8d825%26pid%3D1000= 05%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D232418084597 Marine unit, with 2 flow sensors: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FLOSCAN-TWIN-ENGINE-FUEL-FLOW-MONITORING-PACKAG= E-/302395603488?epid=3D1123678451&hash=3Ditem46682eba20:g:GrkAAOSwl31ZeTD1&= vxp=3Dmtr Another marine unit (likely includes the sensor, but you should ask before purchasing): http://www.ebay.com/itm/FloScan-Fuel-Monitoring-Computers-Part-6532-CAT-20-= GAS-0-32-GPH-NEW-NIP-NOS/142382132325?_trksid=3Dp2047675.c100005.m1851&_trk= parms=3Daid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D47b23= cb892114b7d9d9cd637b54b5ae6%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D302395= 603488 Aviation unit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/FC-10-Fuel-Computer-Totalizer-Fuel-Flow-Meter-/2212= 05026449 There are numerous 'heads' listed, as well, and a brand new flow sensor is only around US $150 retail: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Floscan-Model-231-Standard-Flow-Gasoline-Sensor-/28= 1932092376?epid=3D1322077292&hash=3Ditem41a47653d8:g:CnEAAOSwXYtYyD8K&vxp= =3Dmtr They're frequently available with the marine heads, or with older Shadin heads for less than US $200. I know, because I have a few on my parts shelf right now. Watch for Floscan, Shadin (typically uses Floscan sensor), Flight Data Systems (uses either Floscan or FT60, depending on age), Electronics International (FT60 'Red Cube' sensor). The Floscan 231 & EI FT60 are interchangeable, used with any of the common heads; you'll need to calibrate either's K factor to your system installation. As we've said, you don't need two sensors if you 'dead head' flow to the injectors. Charlie On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:13 AM, Neil Unger wrote: > Thanks Andrew, but the sly sods want 2 flow meters as well for the low > price of $1200 All up plus fittings, say $1500. Neil. > > On 7/27/2017 9:34 AM, Andrew Martin wrote: > > Neil. > > Done the google search for you, available in Aus $388.00 > http://lightflying.com.au/vega-singles/ > likely to be other makes available also, > > Mgl say they are now open source, so completely configurable if your so > inclined. or just use as is. worked for me. > > Andrew > > > > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Andrew Martin > wrote: > >> Neil, lots of options out there, both Tracy's & Ed's engine monitors wil= l >> do what you want. MGL Vega single FF-4 would be a good option also. >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Neil Unger >> wrote: >> >>> Gents, Is anyone aware of a fuel consumption gauge that will give fue= l >>> consumption in real time? I can get one that has two flow meters but t= hat >>> makes installation complicated and not really cost effective. I am loo= king >>> for something that works off the injectors. As usual it has to be >>> "tweaked" with actual fuel usage. Did not Tracy have such a system? N= eil. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net >>> :81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >> >> > > --94eb2c119656096b2605554bc5b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Another marine unit (likely includes the sensor, but you s= hould ask before purchasing):


There are numerous 'heads&= #39; listed, as well, and a brand new flow sensor is only around US $150 re= tail:
They're frequently available with the marine heads, or with= older Shadin heads for less than US $200. I know, because I have a few on = my parts shelf right now.

Watch for Floscan, Shadi= n (typically uses Floscan sensor), Flight Data Systems (uses either Floscan= or FT60, depending on age), Electronics International (FT60 'Red Cube&= #39; sensor).

The Floscan 231 & EI FT60 are in= terchangeable, used with any of the common heads; you'll need to calibr= ate either's K factor to your system installation.

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As we've said, you don't need two sensors if you 'dead hea= d' flow to the injectors.

Charlie
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On Thu, Jul 27, 20= 17 at 4:13 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
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Thanks Andrew, but the sly sods want 2 flow meters as well for the low price of=C2=A0 $1200 All up plus fittings, say $1500.=C2=A0 N= eil.


On 7/27/2017 9:34 A= M, Andrew Martin wrote:
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Neil.

Done the google search for you, available in Aus $388.00 http://light= flying.com.au/vega-singles/
likely to be other makes available also,

Mgl say they are now open source, so completely configurable if your so inclined. or just use as is. worked for me.

Andrew




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Andrew Martin <andrew@martinag.com.au> wrote:
Neil, lots of options out there, both Tracy's & Ed's engine monitors will do what you want. MGL Vega single FF-4 would be a good option also.

Andrew




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancair= online.net> wrote:
Gents,=C2=A0 Is anyone aware of a fuel consumption=C2=A0 gauge that will give fuel consumption in real time?=C2=A0 I can get one that has two flow meters but that makes installation complicated and not really cost effective.=C2= =A0 I am looking for something that works off the injectors.=C2=A0 As usual it has to be "tweaked" with actual fuel usage.=C2= =A0 Did not Tracy have such a system?=C2=A0 Neil.


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