X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: Received: from resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c3) with ESMTPS id 9837964 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 00:05:13 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.252.207.39; envelope-from=hoursaway1@comcast.net Received: from resomta-ch2-15v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.111]) by resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id NAPQd5C23U9z5NAPQdRKaC; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 04:04:56 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1497931496; bh=9Q8BFcgCoUa09CVLcHG2tj5HjqDtTLcuo/vUaSEBjxs=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=at2sGTazuFd1yyXzzXK9HVwz2uouRbCBNFKQ+q0QxT15KItXUfi9OJxwDSu+5oq50 sq7KLq2Eke7lR01wxvzWcGtHrUfhLqtVqcmgjPPSN+MLwE2hOjKQNRaJKdW5TTo31w 3FG3DnErJCdWqW1njbS788DQDMK18K0KIlRda5NlThyyETLazlGwJ7AWam19+WSX1r htfhEFucChBeA8l27OJFGe30/U7W9nnSC//ulBYgyFztBO21sKluj2biFZMhQIJK5u eccER1FTQBBly5BNc99trzeFS7uGkhFSGm8XwDGv0srkQJ9CoJeTjB9VwEuBpDDgBH 23ooYlZeNel0Q== Received: from resmail-ch2-632v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.50.156]) by resomta-ch2-15v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id NAPQdukyzjSUONAPQdUFEt; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 04:04:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 04:04:55 +0000 (UTC) To: "Fly rotary blog, e-mail" Message-ID: <463754657.54441731.1497931495875.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Forever Projects MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_54441730_2109690382.1497931495871" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:68.49.229.174] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.0.7_GA_6031 (ZimbraWebClient - GC51 (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: Forever Projects Thread-Index: ameaAjeR26LGzBQdfpZbJG8LRZLmdQ== X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfIR6eZN2/tCOdt9JUJFqUDIRmrqMLMJWNRUoY9QG2SoP0lnvUs6hYqnVfYRHUchuMFIMhszQdj25SujnySGTtal/t5B6T/zQiEiKLuIRXk4mWVoPQrll 2/CeqtMbZWO5eNzZdvLufe6ffFjBnv2snESfPoTtVdWBlcd0q12V1wjiBz8Q0D/diKwvcb12kqY8UxFvwx359Q6FYJpYYanv7sk= ------=_Part_54441730_2109690382.1497931495871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ivoprop 45 deg. to 105 deg. pitch, 68" three blade, in-flight adjust. David= =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Bartrim" =20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" =20 Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:34:39 AM=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Forever Projects=20 Hey David;=20 What prop are using there?=20 Todd=20 Dreaming with my eyes wide open....=20 Todd Bartrim=20 On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:32 PM, hoursaway1 < flyrotary@lancaironline.net >= wrote:=20 Good write Todd, you know Lynn,,,,,,we race planes to & Rotarys are FAST.. = David RV6A Rotary 3000 ft 80F at altitude above airport pattern making oval= patterns wide open throttle prop still pitched for takeoff no gear fairing= s yet,,,,,,176 kts ind.=20 From: "Todd Bartrim" < flyrotary@lancaironline.net >=20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" < flyrotary@lancaironline.net >=20 Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 1:56:41 PM=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Forever Projects=20 Do something everyday. That advice was given to me long ago when I original= ly began my project. One little job (or big job) everyday and eventually th= ere will be nothing left to do but take It to the airport.=20 Now this might sound oversimplified just like the whole "journey of a thous= and miles" thing,=20 But what I believe is the key to this is that if you do something everyday = then the details of the project are always kept in the forefront of your mi= nd and when you have a hour or two to work on it you don't waste time tryin= g to think about where you left off or what you are going to do next.=20 For almost 12 years after I last flew my plane I was overwhelmed with other= projects and responsibilities that I allowed to fill my brain to the point= where when I would have a moment when I could consider working on the plan= e, I would find myself feeling overwhelmed and not knowing where to even st= art. So I didn't. Until finally I did. In the intervening years I did keep = a task list on my phone and continued to lurk on the list so when various n= ew ideas were brought up I would add them to the list for future considerat= ion. The list grew to a very daunting size, to a point where it was discour= aging to realize that I had been flying this machine and somehow there had = grown this almost insurmountable list of tasks to accomplish before returni= ng to the skies. When I finally got back into it, I started by just saying = no to all the other jobs and favours that were consuming my time and space = in the shop and then I spent an entire weekend not doing much more to the p= lane than familiarize myself with it and develop a mental state where I cou= ld recall the details of the many interrelated items that make this thing d= efy gravity. This is necessary but wasted time that could be avoided simply= by doing something everyday then the details stay easily accessible in the= forefront of my mind instead of buried in the dusty recesses of my mind. A= nd now that very long list has only a small number of items without a check= mark beside them.=20 When I started this project I was a relatively young man compared to all th= e old timers that seemed to dominate the airshows and getting an aviation m= edical was a simple formality. Now how the years have slipped by and I find= myself facing next week's medical with apprehension. Although a little sor= e in the mornings from many previous injuries Im still very active and feel= great, but I also realize that now that I've crossed that half century mar= k, there are a long list of hidden ailments that could be lurking unknown t= hat would preclude the passing of a medical. And that would be truly heartb= reaking to have wasted all these years not flying this plane.=20 Then all I could do is ramble on, offering unsolicited advice on forums... = ;)=20 Lyn, over the the years you have given us much great advice based on your y= ears of racing experience. Now let me give you some. Go out to your shop an= d lower that plane to the ground and do something on it. Today. And everyda= y.=20 All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty reces= ses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dre= amers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with o= pen eyes, to make them possible.=20 T. E. Lawrence=20 Todd=20 C-FSTB=20 RV9 13Bturbo=20 On Sat, Jun 17, 2017, 09:21 Kelly Troyer, < flyrotary@lancaironline.net > w= rote:=20
Lehanover=20 =09 Jun 16 (1 day ago)=20 =09=09 to Rotary=20 The micron rating of the last chance filter would be the same as in the car= the injector came from or was used in. Find a filter with that micron rati= ng (the one from the car) and cut it open. Lay out the paper or wire media = and measure the square inches. Double that number and buy a filter(s) that = have that numberof square inches of media and AN fitting capability.=20 There is no application for hose barb fittings on an airplane or a race car= . Change the filters at annual.=20 Sintered bronze elements can be plugged solid by a dose of water. I would n= ot use them. This is race car stuff. My BD-4 hangs from the ceiling unfinis= hed.=20 Lynn E. Hanover=20 Lynn,=20 Do not think you are alone out there in "Project Unfinished Land"..........= .I am still plugging away with my Dyke Delta JD2 with the hope of flying be= fore death............At age 76 I still look forward to working on it......= .....Would rather die building than in the recliner..............<:)=20 Best Regards,=20 Kelly Troyer=20
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Ivoprop 45 deg. to 105 deg. pitch, 68"= three blade, in-flight adjust.  David

From: "Todd Bartrim" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
T= o: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
<= b>Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:34:39 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary]= Re: Forever Projects

Hey David;
&nb= sp; What prop are using there?

Todd
Drea= ming with my eyes wide open....

Todd Bart= rim

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at= 7:32 PM, hoursaway1 <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Good write Todd, you know Lynn,,,,,,we race plane= s to & Rotarys are FAST.. David  RV6A Rotary 3000 ft 80F at altitu= de above airport pattern making oval patterns wide open throttle prop still= pitched for takeoff no gear fairings yet,,,,,,176 kts ind.
<= br>
From: "Todd Bartrim" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>=
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent:= Saturday, June 17, 2017 1:56:41 PM
Subject: [Fly= Rotary] Re: Forever Projects

Do something everyday. That advice was given to me long ago when I origina= lly began my project. One little job (or big job) everyday and eventually t= here will be nothing left to do but take It to the airport.
  Now= this might sound oversimplified just like the whole "journey of a thousand= miles" thing,
But what I believe is the key to this is that if you do = something everyday then the details of the project are always kept in the f= orefront of your mind and when you have a hour or two to work on it you don= 't waste time trying to think about where you left off or what you are goin= g to do next.
  For almost 12 years after I last flew my plane I w= as overwhelmed with other projects and responsibilities that I allowed to f= ill my brain to the point where when I would have a moment when I could con= sider working on the plane, I would find myself feeling overwhelmed and not= knowing where to even start. So I didn't. Until finally I did. In the inte= rvening years I did keep a task list on my phone and continued to lurk on t= he list so when various new ideas were brought up I would add them to the l= ist for future consideration. The list grew to a very daunting size, to a p= oint where it was discouraging to realize that I had been flying this machi= ne and somehow there had grown this almost insurmountable list of tasks to = accomplish before returning to the skies. When I finally got back into it, = I started by just saying no to all the other jobs and favours that were con= suming my time and space in the shop and then I spent an entire weekend not= doing much more to the plane than familiarize myself with it and develop a= mental state where I could recall the details of the many interrelated ite= ms that make this thing defy gravity. This is necessary but wasted time tha= t could be avoided simply by doing something everyday then the details stay= easily accessible in the forefront of my mind instead of buried in the dus= ty recesses of my mind. And now that very long list has only a small number= of items without a checkmark beside them.
  When I started this p= roject I was a relatively young man compared to all the old timers that see= med to dominate the airshows and getting an aviation medical was a simple f= ormality. Now how the years have slipped by and I find myself facing next w= eek's medical with apprehension. Although a little sore in the mornings fro= m many previous injuries Im still very active and feel great, but I also re= alize that now that I've crossed that half century mark, there are a long l= ist of hidden ailments that could be lurking unknown that would preclude th= e passing of a medical. And that would be truly heartbreaking to have waste= d all these years not flying this plane.
     Then = all I could do is ramble on, offering unsolicited advice on forums... ;)   Lyn, over the the years you have given us much great advice based = on your years of racing experience. Now let me give you some. Go out to you= r shop and lower that plane to the ground and do something on it. Today. An= d everyday.

All men dream, but not equally. Those who dre= am by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find t= hat it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they = may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible.
T. E. L= awrence

Todd
C-FSTB
RV9 13Bturbo

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017, 09:21 Kelly Troyer,= <flyrotary@lancaironline.net= > wrote:
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The micron rating = of the last chance filter would be the same as in the car the injector came= from or was used in. Find a filter with that micron rating (the one from t= he car) and cut it open. Lay out the paper or wire media and measure the sq= uare inches. Double that number and buy a filter(s) that have that numberof= square inches of media and AN fitting capability.
 
 There is no application for hose barb fittings on an airplane= or a race car. Change the filters at annual.
Sintered bronze ele= ments can be plugged solid by a dose of water. I would not use them.  = This is race car stuff. My BD-4 hangs from the ceiling unfinished.
Lynn E. Hanover

Lynn,

=     Do not think you are alone out there in "Project Unfinished L= and"...........I am still plugging away with my Dyke Delta JD2 with the hop= e of flying before death............At age 76 I still look forward to worki= ng on it...........Would rather die building than in the recliner..........= ....<:)

Best Regards,
Kelly Tro= yer



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