Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 02:04:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.4.38.171] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.2) with ESMTP id 1892419 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:02:50 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:02:49 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [65.137.51.222] Reply-To: "Tracy Crook" From: "Tracy Crook" X-Original-To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant loss : More cooling system test stuff. X-Original-Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:11:07 -0500 Organization: Real World Solutions Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Original-Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2002 02:02:49.0282 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA35F220:01C299A6] > > This also accounts for another anomaly I've noticed over the years. > It > > seemed like the water cooling was slightly better on the first flight > > after > > topping off the system. I was never sure because the next flight was > > usually on a different day, different temperature, humidity, etc. Now > > that > > I've been paying close attention I have verified that only a few > ounces > > worth of air in the system makes a noticible degredation in cooling > > performance (about 5 degrees worth). Not sure why this is happening > > either but I'm happy with the results. With more experimentation the > > answer > > will probably come out. > > > > Tracy Crook > > tcrook@rotaryaviation.com > > www.rotaryaviation.com > Tracy, > FWIW, the 93+FD owners have known this for years. Just a little air > screws up the cooling system performance big time. They even have > elaborate procedures to "burp" the systems to get rid of all air. > Sometimes it takes all afternoon to get all the air out of a system. And > these systems use an entrained air bubble remover 'swirl pot' as well to > vent out the bubbles before the system is connected to the overflow > tank. Of course the positions of all the components may have > necessitated some of the components. On the attached pic I put an arrow > pointing at the "swirl pot" (with the .9 bar cap). You can see the > tubing from the other pump cap to it. From the bottom of the swirl pot > additional tubes route to the expansion tank. > [Marc Wiese] > Thanks for the conformation Marc. Data is a lot more reliable when it is repeatable. I'll pass along another anomoly I've noticed. Maybe someone else has seen this one as well and knows an answer. I have replaced my pressure cap several times with a Stant 16 PSI cap. It seems to hold 16 psi when new but in very little time (10 - 20 hours of use?) the holding pressure is down to around 10 psi where it stays. Anyone else see this? I'm going to order a 20 psi cap from CR Racing & see if it does any better. Tracy