X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Bill Bradburry" Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.21] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.7) with ESMTPS id 8173297 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:19:21 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.173.21; envelope-from=bbradburry@verizon.net Received: from Desktop ([173.71.14.135]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NY0007YXYZDJJ91@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:18:49 -0600 (CST) X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=WcjxEBVX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=YsSROtz1JO3+GnD2bqMDlQ==:117 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=qtqOOiqGOCEA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=3j4BkbkPAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=YmeXQuK5W8HUfQbbC2wA:9 a=d49_izYmKk09MOhw:21 a=MKwJRP1VK-ggVJV3:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=i_9NkfLXqZmECQobMmcA:9 a=lBMSnWsp4MlI-_pn:21 a=pbYIoH6FbPdGs6sI:21 a=zndEGSZfhkrNh-mL:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-reply-to: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:18:50 -0600 Message-id: <7EC6EE664B08461684A6339394A0C58C@Desktop> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01D12203.AA428EF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: AdEiND7vOMwlrLyOReeVBEsuqnauZwAAR+rQ X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D12203.AA428EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom, I am not on Facebook for a lot of similar reasons to your unwillingness to post your address. I get this response: Sorry, this content isn't available right now The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you're not in. Go back to the previous page . Go to News Feed . Visit our Help Center You could send your info on your project to me at Bbradburry one word all lower case at Verizon dot net Bill _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 1:04 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing OK, did not realize this. Try me on face book as I won't post my info. https://www.facebook.com/tom.gillespie.50 That should get you to my SQ2000 page Thanks for the interest ~~~tg~~~ _____ From: James R. Osborn To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing Tom how do we reach you offline? The list doesn't pass direct e-mail return addresses through anymore. - James On Nov 18, 2015, at 6:23 AM, Tom Gillespie wrote: Good morning all. Not trying to hijack this thread but I can't log on to post for some reason. Anyway, my project is up for sale and I have a fresh 20B with judge Ito porting done, new high grade 2mm seals, gaskets etc. E mail me for more pics and info off line please. Thanks everyone ~~~tg~~~ _____ From: Andrew Martin To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:34 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing Both temps are fine at idle, could possibly idle indefinately, any power makes oil temp peak first, just not enough air from the prop, need to be moving. I have an issue where fuel is pooling in a low spot in the intake runners at idle. Kind of like auto rich adjustment as the engine eventually sucks it in. Makes tuning fun. seems ok at mid to high rpm. Andrew On Wednesday, 18 November 2015, Stephen Izett wrote: Thanks Andrew What happens to your water temps? Is it just your oil thats the problem? Steve On 18 Nov 2015, at 12:10 PM, Andrew Martin wrote: Steve, Looks like were both at about the same point. I have run my engine stationary for a couple of hours now, just trying to fine tune the EC2. My temps are fine for about 4-5 minutes but definitely not enough airflow to cool the oil when stationary so takes lots of short run ups, I'm thinking its better to just rough tune then get on the runway to get some air through the coolers. definitely need to rig up a video to record, as too much happens at once. I had a TC & AP inspection in Sept. lots of little issues to fix with the airframe which I'd neglected, due to being so immersed in the powerplant. most bits done now so will be back into engine runs again soon. Cheers Andrew On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM, steve Izett wrote: Hi Guys For those who have tested and flying their machines. I'm finally about to ground(stationary) test our Renesis 4 port powered Glassier Super IIRG EC2, EM3, RD1-C Electrical Pitch Prop. Your wisdom, experiences, testing procedures to carry out would be very much appreciated. Particularly whats reasonable to expect from my cooling system (modelled of Tracy's RV8)? Now I'm sure it depends upon load and OAT, but what where your experiences? How long could you guys run before overheating etc? Did you provide any supplemental cooling to extend this testing? I'm thinking of putting a water mist jet into the cooling duct/s to see if it significantly increases cooling and time testing. Appreciate you feedback. Sincerely Steve Izett -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D12203.AA428EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Tom,

 

I am not on Facebook for a lot of = similar reasons to your unwillingness to post your address.  I get this = response:

Sorry, this content isn't available right now

The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be = visible to an audience you're not in.

Go back to the previous page · Go to News Feed · = Visit our Help Center

 

You could send your info on your = project to me at

 

Bbradburry one word all lower case = at Verizon dot net

 

Bill

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November = 18, 2015 1:04 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Ground testing

 

OK, did not realize this. Try me on face book as I won't post my = info.

That should get you to my SQ2000 page

 Thanks= for the interest

~~~tg~~~

 <= /o:p>


From: James R. Osborn <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> =
Sent: Wednesday, November = 18, 2015 1:22 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Ground testing

 <= /o:p>

Tom how do we reach you offline?  The list doesn’t pass direct = e-mail return addresses through anymore…

 <= /o:p>

— James

 <= /o:p>

On Nov 18, 2015, at 6:23 AM, Tom Gillespie <flyrotary@lancaironline.ne= t> wrote:

 <= /o:p>

    Good morning all. Not trying to = hijack this thread but I can't log on to post for some = reason.

=

    Anyway, my project is up for sale = and I have a fresh 20B with judge Ito porting done, new high grade 2mm seals, = gaskets etc. E mail me for more pics and info off line = please.

=

 Thanks everyone

=

~~~tg~~~ 

=

 <= /o:p>


From: Andrew Martin <flyrotary@lancaironline.ne= t>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net&g= t;
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:34 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing

=

 <= /o:p>

Both temps are fine at idle, could possibly idle indefinately, any power = makes oil temp peak first, just not enough air from the prop, need to be = moving.

I have an issue where fuel is pooling in a low spot in the intake = runners at idle. Kind of like auto rich adjustment as the engine eventually = sucks it in. Makes tuning fun. seems ok at mid to high = rpm.

Andrew<= /o:p>


On Wednesday, 18 November 2015, Stephen Izett <flyrotary@lancaironline.ne= t> wrote:

Thanks Andrew

What happens to your water temps? Is it just your oil thats the = problem?

Steve

On 18 Nov 2015, at 12:10 PM, Andrew Martin <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> = wrote:

 <= /o:p>

Steve, Looks like were both at about the same point. I have run my engine = stationary for a couple of hours now, just trying to fine tune the EC2. My temps = are fine for about 4-5 minutes but definitely not enough airflow to cool the oil = when stationary so takes lots of short run ups, I'm thinking its better to = just rough tune then get on the runway to get some air through the = coolers.

definitely need to rig up a video to record, as too much happens at = once.

 <= /o:p>

I had a TC & AP inspection in Sept. lots of little issues to fix with = the airframe which I'd neglected, due to being so immersed in the = powerplant. most bits done now so will be back into engine runs again = soon.

 <= /o:p>

Cheers<= /o:p>

Andrew<= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM, steve Izett <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:


Hi Guys
For those who have tested and flying their machines.
I’m finally about to ground(stationary) test our Renesis 4 port = powered Glassier Super IIRG
EC2, EM3, RD1-C Electrical Pitch Prop.

Your wisdom, experiences, testing procedures to carry out would be very = much appreciated.

Particularly whats reasonable to expect from my cooling system (modelled = of Tracy’s = RV8)?
Now I’m sure it depends upon load and OAT, but what where your experiences?
How long could you guys run before overheating etc?
Did you provide any supplemental cooling to extend this testing?
I’m thinking of putting a water mist jet into the cooling duct/s = to see if it significantly increases cooling and time testing.

Appreciate you feedback.

Sincerely

Steve Izett



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Andrew Martin
Martin Ag

 

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