X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Tom Gillespie" Received: from nm38-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.136.217.60] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.7) with ESMTPS id 8173246 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:06:32 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.136.217.60; envelope-from=pseudowilly33@ymail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s2048; t=1447873575; bh=2zkS9Ex5t77hDAdToN8fhyDiR48URkErGMAGCdFwIBI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=nMnVI9HPG8O9HpxR59E7Zbp6Aw2zyd9Gd+3HSOGJlxlRNBg+bim0hyJJ19GgJY4wAIYiVCuU388gzHxwBXxCMwiDMFWIRvJGiraVNnXt7v/9s3ibkREprID4YZQp+FKNM5PV14mvWo8T6RvrZGtphKT8LnfFBX/CAzXf4+tzSbPj26tx6HHKfpr0zBqigIYosYeVTqV+Xq8TJQcCoIcY3M+PT6PP8PaSGGhUrGyzxRBH+5+4wjLBpr18+ybu38L7BlmWEZe3MGeIPl9ETtaaqddgpz6L2b7d9k39m7wF1ArbnqBMD83Yp+kZWtZhxFUT45NmngMrAj/RZb1Jd3svMA== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm38.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2015 19:06:15 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.181] by nm38.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2015 19:03:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.170.179] by tm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2015 19:03:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.210] by tm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2015 19:03:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2015 19:03:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 120660.99067.bm@omp1019.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: 6.MaT1cVRDs7n0fvQyqXVyQllGIBv_0jQhfFXdVn9L4UW2z5AHh9T.e7.GEOdbLs Received: by 76.13.26.138; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:03:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Reply-To: Tom Gillespie To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <1760599678.7036926.1447873410189.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7036925_2075982820.1447873410179" Content-Length: 16556 ------=_Part_7036925_2075982820.1447873410179 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, did not realize this. Try me on face book as I won't post my info.=C2= =A0https://www.facebook.com/tom.gillespie.50That should get you to my SQ200= 0 page=C2=A0Thanks for the interest~~~tg~~~ From: James R. Osborn To: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing =20 Tom how do we reach you offline? =C2=A0The list doesn=E2=80=99t pass direct= e-mail return addresses through anymore=E2=80=A6 =E2=80=94 James On Nov 18, 2015, at 6:23 AM, Tom Gillespie wr= ote: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Good morning all. Not trying to hijack this thread but I can'= t log on to post for some reason.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Anyway, my project is up for= sale and I have a fresh 20B with judge Ito porting done, new high grade 2m= m seals, gaskets etc. E mail me for more pics and info off line please.=C2= =A0Thanks everyone~~~tg~~~=C2=A0 From: Andrew Martin To: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:34 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing =20 Both temps are fine at idle, could possibly idle indefinately, any power ma= kes oil temp peak first, just not enough air from the prop, need to be movi= ng.I have an issue where fuel is pooling in a low spot in=C2=A0the intake r= unners at idle. Kind of like auto rich=C2=A0adjustment as the engine eventu= ally sucks it in. Makes tuning fun.=C2=A0seems ok at mid to high rpm.Andrew On Wednesday, 18 November 2015, Stephen Izett = wrote: Thanks AndrewWhat happens to your water temps? Is it just your oil thats th= e problem?Steve On 18 Nov 2015, at 12:10 PM, Andrew Martin wr= ote: Steve, Looks like were both at about the same point. I have run my engine s= tationary for a couple of hours now, just trying to fine tune the EC2. My t= emps are fine for about 4-5 minutes but definitely not enough airflow to co= ol the oil when stationary so takes lots of short run ups, I'm thinking its= better to just rough tune then get on the runway to get some air through t= he coolers. definitely need to rig up a video to record, as too much happens at once. I had a TC & AP inspection in Sept. lots of little issues to fix with the a= irframe which I'd neglected, due to being so immersed in the powerplant. mo= st bits done now so will be back into engine runs again soon. Cheers Andrew On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM, steve Izett = wrote: Hi Guys For those who have tested and flying their machines. I=E2=80=99m finally about to ground(stationary) test our Renesis 4 port pow= ered Glassier Super IIRG EC2, EM3, RD1-C Electrical Pitch Prop. Your wisdom, experiences, testing procedures to carry out would be very muc= h appreciated. Particularly whats reasonable to expect from my cooling system (modelled of= Tracy=E2=80=99s RV8)? Now I=E2=80=99m sure it depends upon load and OAT, but what where your expe= riences? How long could you guys run before overheating etc? Did you provide any supplemental cooling to extend this testing? I=E2=80=99m thinking of putting a water mist jet into the cooling duct/s to= see if it significantly increases cooling and time testing. Appreciate you feedback. Sincerely Steve Izett -- Homepage:=C2=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0 =C2=A0http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyro= tary/List.html --=20 Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag =20 ------=_Part_7036925_2075982820.1447873410179 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK, did not realize this. Try me on face boo= k as I won't post my info.
 https://www.facebook.com/tom.gillespie.50
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That should get yo= u to my SQ2000 page
 Thanks for the interest
~~~tg~~~

From: James R. Osborn <flyrotary@lanca= ironline.net>
To: R= otary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 = 1:22 PM
Subject: [FlyR= otary] Re: Ground testing

Tom how do we reach you offline? &= nbsp;The list doesn=E2=80=99t pass direct e-mail return addresses through a= nymore=E2=80=A6

=E2=80=94 James

On Nov 18, 2015, at 6:23 AM, Tom = Gillespie <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

&= nbsp;   Good morning all. Not trying to hijack this thread but I can't= log on to post for some reason.
 = ;   Anyway, my project is up for sale and I have a fresh 20B with judg= e Ito porting done, new high grade 2mm seals, gaskets etc. E mail me for mo= re pics and info off line please.
 Thanks everyone
~~~tg~~~ 

From: An= drew Martin <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015= 11:34 PM
Subject: [FlyRot= ary] Re: Ground testing

Both temps are fine at idle, could possibly idle indefinate= ly, any power makes oil temp peak first, just not enough air from the prop,= need to be moving.
I have an issue where fuel is pooling in a low spo= t in the intake runners at idle. Kind of like auto rich adjustmen= t as the engine eventually sucks it in. Makes tuning fun. seems ok at = mid to high rpm.
Andrew

On Wednesday,= 18 November 2015, Stephen Izett <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>= wrote:
Than= ks Andrew
What happens to your water temps? Is = it just your oil thats the problem?
Steve=
=
On 18 Nov 2015, at 12:10 PM, Andrew M= artin <flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net> wrote:

Steve, Looks like were both at about the same point. I have ru= n my engine stationary for a couple of hours now, just trying to fine tune = the EC2. My temps are fine for about 4-5 minutes but definitely not enough = airflow to cool the oil when stationary so takes lots of short run ups, I'm= thinking its better to just rough tune then get on the runway to get some = air through the coolers.
definitely need to rig up a video to record, as too much happen= s at once.
I had a TC &am= p; AP inspection in Sept. lots of little issues to fix with the airframe wh= ich I'd neglected, due to being so immersed in the powerplant. most bits do= ne now so will be back into engine runs again soon.

Cheers
Andrew




On Wed,= Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM, steve Izett <flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi Guys
For those who have tested and flying their machines.
I=E2=80=99m finally about to ground(stationary) test our Renesis 4 port pow= ered Glassier Super IIRG
EC2, EM3, RD1-C Electrical Pitch Prop.

Your wisdom, experiences, testing procedures to carry out would be very muc= h appreciated.

Particularly whats reasonable to expect from my cooling system (modelled of= Tracy=E2=80=99s RV8)?
Now I=E2=80=99m sure it depends upon load and OAT, but what where your expe= riences?
How long could you guys run before overheating etc?
Did you provide any supplemental cooling to extend this testing?
I=E2=80=99m thinking of putting a water mist jet into the cooling duct/s to= see if it significantly increases cooling and time testing.

Appreciate you feedback.

Sincerely

Steve Izett



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