X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Steven W. Boese" Received: from [65.55.169.133] (HELO na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.6) with ESMTPS id 8116048 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:09:13 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.169.133; envelope-from=SBoese@uwyo.edu Received: from BN3PR0501MB1138.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.160.113.148) by BN3PR0501MB1140.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.160.113.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.312.18; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:08:56 +0000 Received: from BN3PR0501MB1138.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.160.113.148]) by BN3PR0501MB1138.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.160.113.148]) with mapi id 15.01.0312.014; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:08:55 +0000 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B with RD-1C Prop Options Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B with RD-1C Prop Options Thread-Index: AQHREyWMeLdBYobq2keNgKG7RXzP456EhQK2 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:08:55 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=SBoese@uwyo.edu; x-originating-ip: [69.146.103.188] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1;BN3PR0501MB1140;5:Fp7yOVl9545zEEAmI/QobgQABRGcX53mNcJDgfgTHjN4ZvgxW1MPsFOB9CEJP6PtQxNG7JhDgvKOIXF41cvNrN9BFZyYBVeJT/X0SIWFOrhgQhMB/nVAT8BLQHVu4YYPa2YzWb9G1xKTxe2wIA1yQA==;24:1vxjNzOn/8P7DV8+qCrN3KBLqW31NITJcxD6uzS7y/7H+bGI4pur72dfDksfp4I3jkXCdH6VbXlVYrKSRfGrHTK1dF0eo16gMlmCAEQ5/jc=;20:baZkpQqadEttZIg0XcfCFG9H94ePdsNu7sgfWDquj73ne3PlbF1kcdlxkIL34MwVRPZYdCi9QaDVD06OHuyXlg== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BN3PR0501MB1140; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(8121501046)(520078)(5005006)(10201501046)(3002001)(102215026);SRVR:BN3PR0501MB1140;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BN3PR0501MB1140; x-forefront-prvs: 07459438AA x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(377454003)(199003)(189002)(19580405001)(33656002)(81156007)(80792005)(92566002)(75432002)(88552001)(5004730100002)(97736004)(19580395003)(107886002)(54356999)(5007970100001)(87936001)(90282001)(76176999)(5003600100002)(101416001)(50986999)(86362001)(74316001)(110136002)(66066001)(77096005)(189998001)(99286002)(2900100001)(2950100001)(5008740100001)(5002640100001)(450100001)(106356001)(76576001)(102836002)(122556002)(106116001)(10400500002)(5001960100002)(89122001)(105586002)(40100003);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:BN3PR0501MB1140;H:BN3PR0501MB1138.namprd05.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;SPF:None;PTR:InfoNoRecords;A:1;MX:1;LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: uwyo.edu does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: uwyo.edu X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 30 Oct 2015 21:08:55.4117 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: f9cdd7ad-825d-4601-8e9c-a325e02d52da X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN3PR0501MB1140 James, I have an engine test stand that was used to develop a NA 3B installation a= nd is presently used in development of a turbo Renesis installation. If a = prop suitable for flight is used on the test stand, operation at high power= causes the prop to cavitate. When this happens, the sound is deafening an= d the vibration is also felt through the ground. It is worth considering t= hat extended operation of the cavitated prop may be detrimental to the long= evity of the prop and possibly the operator. I don't know exactly what "ex= tended" means and it is something I hope not to find out.=20 FWIW Steve Boese RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2 =20 ________________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of = James R. Osborn Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:12 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B with RD-1C Prop Options Hi Bill, Yeah after I sent that I realized slip was a much smaller difference. The = difference between top speed and standing still is 100% slip! I don=92t really know what to expect for HP. I threw those numbers out the= re for feedback. So what numbers say for unported site port, medium street= port side port, and peripheral port on a 20B can we reasonably achieve? Thanks for more input and numbers. It will be interesting to try to work i= t out on the ground and the more I think about it, adjustability will be a = real big help. I did recall correctly that a friend has an old dyno I can = borrow. So I guess I will move in that direction first and set the prop se= lection aside for now.