X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Jeff Whaley" Received: from hub026-NJ-2.exch026.serverdata.net ([206.225.166.165] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1c2) with ESMTPS id 7427157 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:46:17 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.225.166.165; envelope-from=jwhaley@datacast.com Received: from MBX026-E1-NJ-2.exch026.domain.local ([10.240.14.52]) by HUB026-NJ-2.exch026.domain.local ([10.240.14.33]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:45:43 -0800 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Cooling Thread-Topic: Re: [FlyRotary] Cooling Thread-Index: AdA0+nAUaG5JBA2IRvykNs6fg4C93A== Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:45:42 +0000 Message-ID: <234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A361FF336@mbx026-e1-nj-2.exch026.domain.local> Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [209.87.232.162] Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_005_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A361FF336mbx026e1nj2exch_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_005_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A361FF336mbx026e1nj2exch_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A361FF336mbx026e1nj2exch_" --_000_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A361FF336mbx026e1nj2exch_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve, my setup will cool on the ground <80 F OAT provided that engine rpm = is Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Cooling Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 07:39:29 +1100 To: Rotary motors in aircraft [Message Header] [Undecoded Message] Steve, I can run full noise on the ground with no heating problems, but th= en I do have 900 cub inches of cooling. 600 for water and 300 for oil. I = did insist that PWR make a rad that WILL cool. It does regardless of OAT. = I had to put a thermostat in to get the water over 60 degrees. I have too = much cooling. Neil. -----Original Message----- From: steve Izett Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:35 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Cooling Hi Guys So what are your experiences of running on the ground. Do your setups cool on the ground at any throttle setting? I'm still not in a position to open the throttle as Im in a garage at home. After start and running at about 1500RPM (engine) with an OAT 90+ temps slowly rise till i shut it down before it gets past 210F. This takes probably 20 Minutes. What do you guys see on the ground in your various climates and cooling set= ups? Steve Izett Perth Western Australia This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the a= ddressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any unauth= orized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message= in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal= records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. --_000_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A361FF336mbx026e1nj2exch_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Steve, my setup will cool on the ground <80 F OAT= provided that engine rpm is </=3D 3000 with zero wind; it will do a bit= better than that if airplane is taxiing or there is a strong breeze.<= /o:p>

Both my oil air intake and radiator air intake plenu= ms are within a few inches of the prop.

If you open the throttle during stationary ground op= eration you should expect it to overheat.  Stationary engine dynamomet= ers have HUGE radiators/coolers with ducted fans.

Jeff

 

From:

Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironli= ne.net>

Subject:

Re: [FlyRotary] Cooling

Date:

Wed, 21 Jan 2015 07:39:29 +1100<= o:p>

To:

Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrot= ary@lancaironline.net>

3D"Message

Steve,  I can run full noise on the ground with no he= ating problems, but then I do have 900 cub inches of cooling.  600 for= water and 300 for oil.  I did insist that PWR make a rad that WILL cool.  It does regardless of OAT. I had to put a thermostat= in to get the water over 60 degrees.  I have too much cooling.  = Neil.

-----Original Message----- From: steve Izett
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:35 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Cooling

Hi Guys

So what are your experiences of running on the ground.
Do your setups cool on the ground at any throttle setting?

I’m still not in a position to open the throttle as Im in a garage a= t home.
After start and running at about 1500RPM (engine) with an OAT 90+
temps slowly rise till i shut it down before it gets past 210F.
This takes probably 20 Minutes.

What do you guys see on the ground in your various climates and cooling se= tups?

Steve Izett
Perth Western Australia

 

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