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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: which oil for the fuel
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 16:52:00 +0800
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Thanks for the feedback Neil
Steve
> On 30 Dec 2014, at 3:39 pm, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> =
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> Steve, Can't really claim any credit as got RWS to make the rads, dear =
but certainly work.  The inlet is only now 120 sq inches max with Paul =
Lamars plenum.  Will have to measure it to get exact figures.  Started =
with something like 160 square inches, and could not get it warm.  Ended =
cutting down the inlet and still cool so finished putting in a =
thermostat. That fixed all troubles with too cool.   RWS Rads are 555 x =
259 x 55mm which is about 500 Cub Inches.  Oil is 50% of water,  470 x =
155 x 55mm.  That is for a P port renesis or 13B.  Outlet on mine is =
huge, same size as the rads. Will try and experiment on the test bed, =
but is supposed to be 3 times the inlet. I really have no idea.  Neil.
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> -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Izett
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 9:11 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: which oil for the fuel
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> Sorry Neil, Forgot yours was the Glastar.
> Great news on the mixture control.
> So what have you learnt / come to re the cooling formula. Intake area, =
Rad area, exit area?
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>> On 30 Dec 2014, at 5:03 am, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> =
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>> Steve,   how cutting can you get, an RV????    (Had to get that in =
for the thousands with an RV) I have a glastar sportsman. As usual much =
torment with the changes. Spent 4 months trying to find a miss at full =
power. Long story short, was too rich at full noise.  5 seconds to fix =
and perfect ever since. Finally got Microtech to put a manual mixture =
knob in the ECU which now allows quick and minute changes at any time, =
same as Tracy's.  Interesting that Microtech used to offer the manual =
mixture trim, but never sold one so deleted it.  Must be simple to =
attach for it cost nothing for the addition. Others are now to follow =
suit to remove the wear on the underwear. Currently building another =
engine pack up with my own PSRU at 3.17 reduction.  Aim to ground test =
the PSRU on the ground for 50 hours before I put it in my plane.   =
Amazing what you do differently the second time around now that I know =
what Rad opening is required and size radiator is a big help.  Current =
set up works well but is very draggy, which is what I will change as =
much as possible second time around.  Am also narrowing in the area =
behind the prop to a more "shark point".  Looking at making an inconel =
exhaust manifold  to stand the heat better. Still getting up to 1850 =
degrees on takeoff.  Possibly is just the fact that I have EGT fitted =
which just makes me worry.  If I did not know the temp then I would not =
have to worry. My expert tells me I just have to keep advancing the =
spark until I get the coolest temp. How far before detonation??   I am =
currently on 32 degrees, but they go as far as 45 degrees in drag cars!  =
That is to fiddle with on the ground, hence my test bed setup.  IS very =
embarrassing when the noise stops in the air.  Will also fiddle with =
mufflers as well for in 50 hours I might as well be doing something =
other than burning fuel.  Best for new year.  Neil.
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Izett
>> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:56 PM
>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: which oil for the fuel
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>> Thanks Neil, that makes sense.
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>> We're about to paint.
>> So hopefully we=E2=80=99ll get a hangar soon at Serpentine and begin =
engine ground testing.
>> How=E2=80=99s the RV settling in after all he changes.
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>> Steve
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>>> On 29 Dec 2014, at 5:52 pm, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> =
wrote:
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>>> Steve,    Yep just use the old 2 stroke oil.  I suspect that with =
the leak and only "oil", the fuel is evaporating leaving the oil to take =
the blame. Have never seen the oil separate out yet after 12 months.  =
Flying yet?? Neil.
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>>> -----Original Message----- From: steve Izett
>>> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 7:03 PM
>>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>>> Subject: [FlyRotary] which oil for the fuel
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>>> Hi guys
>>> I couldn=E2=80=99t gain access to the archives so thought I would =
ask.
>>> What oil are you mixing with the fuel?
>>> I have been using some 2 stroke oil I had for our trimmer.
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>>> I found a small leak in the pickup of the aux fuel tank that appears =
to be mostly oil, not fuel!
>>> Wondering if this oil is not mixing well with the fuel, or coming =
out of suspention when allowed to sit for a few weeks.
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>>> Your experiences very much appreciated.
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>>> Steve Izett
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