X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P" Received: from naeanrfkax07o.nmci.navy.mil ([138.162.5.148] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 6922907 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 12:32:41 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=138.162.5.148; envelope-from=luis.i.luciano@navy.mil X-AuditID: 8aa20593-b7f5f6d0000072e0-f3-5391ed06c7c8 Received: from naeanrfkeg03v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil (Unknown_Domain [138.162.0.43]) by naeanrfkax07o.nmci.navy.mil (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 0F.63.29408.60DE1935; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 12:32:06 -0400 (EDT) To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle Thread-Index: AQHPgZyj4qLLXaHLW0GTuRuGmZO5GJtkReZA Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 16:31:00 +0000 Message-ID: <96B70CC54687F647B54AE41415ED47C3183568E9@NAEANRFKXM05V.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.26.67.200] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01CF8183.2ADEFF30" MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: luis.i.luciano@navy.mil X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2014 16:31:02.0137 (UTC) FILETIME=[B495CE90:01CF81A4] X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrNIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXStYhBW5ft7cRggz8nJCwWz/nD7MDo0Xux nymAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr495c7YKOjIqFs3ezNzBeju1i5OSQEDCRmP7zHhuELSZx4d56 IJuLQ0jgGqPEvlVH2LsYOTjYBFwlHt3zA6kREbCWmDv1HyOILSygIbF+4jUmiLimRO/xSYwQ tpHE31MbwWwWARWJK2e3s4LYvALRErOubmIBsYWA4vM+nwWr4RRQldj3bw0ziM0IdMP3U2vA ZjILiEvcejKfCeI2EYmHF09D3Skq8fLxP1YIW0Fi3d2dLCA3Mwv0Mkpsu/KVEWKZoMTJmU/g lnXs3s8K8ouEQLDEn99VExhFZyFZMQtZ+ywk7RBF2hJPbz6FsuUltr+dwwxhW0vM+HWQDcJW lJjS/ZAdwjaVeH30I+MCRo5VjMp5iamJeUVp2YkVBuZ6eYkpxaXFqYlgBpAoq9TLzczZxAiO RtbJOxgPL7Q6xCjAwajEw3vk/IRgIdbEsuLK3EOMKkBTH21YfYFRiiUvPy9VSYSXrXlisBBv SmJlVWpRfnxRaU5q8SFGaQ4WJXHeVzebgoUE0hNLUrNTUwtSi2CyTBycUg2M2p8ztt/7ENe0 4+q8RX8/VCfYqq6o64tqYLoX0CNqELI6f9Uu4au93NWNLeV9py9mpLRVsqs9sAxZm8BRb/4x xKTn3ve4uD7pt00JSxJ0NqccFJU3YT7q5PEmjbE6YaeS7yMuhRd7ftVlbOd6Nrltvm3P/v5X c066866dmd622Y2n6Nqdu+5KLMUZiYZazEXFiQC7XBY3zgIAAA== ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CF8183.2ADEFF30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Awesome... picked some up from Ebay for $9.99 w/ free shipping... thanks again Charlie! -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 11:32 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle Google is your friend (even if they know you too well, most of the time). https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=boeshield Actually, I was surprised at how many places actually carry the stuff. (Wal Mart??) On 6/6/2014 9:19 AM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P wrote: > Interesting... where can we non-Boeing folk procure these products? > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:28 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle > > You're welcome. I should mention that once I removed the drive from > the shipping box & hung it on the engine, I saw the beginning of > corrosion on the prop drive lugs within a few months. They are steel, > and unprotected by paint or plating of any sort. I sprayed them with > 'Boeshield T-9' & that seemed to stop the corrosion in its tracks. > IIRC, Boeshield & Boelube were developed by Boeing for corrosion > protection and metal working lube. (Thanks to Bernie Kerr, an early > rotary builder, for that tip.) > > Charlie > > On 6/4/2014 7:43 AM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P wrote: >> Awesome advice! Thanks Charlie!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 5:46 PM >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle >> >> I've got a drive that's at least 10 years old & has never flown. It's pristine inside, but spent most of its shelf life in relatively dry Arkansas (compared to MS, anyway...). Do you have any way to pump fresh oil through the bearings to get the used motor oil out? Might not be critical since there probably aren't a lot of hours on it (sorry, Chris...), but that's the most likely source of corrosion if you can keep it dry inside the case. >> >> Certified a/c engine guys are paranoid about corrosion (a/c engines corrode readily, and repair costs are heart stopping). An engine that will be stored for a long time (more than a few weeks, in some cases) gets 'desiccant' spark plugs, bags of desiccant stuffed into every orifice, and then everything sealed up. SOP is to check the desiccant plugs every few weeks, if possible, to see if they've changed color, indicating that they've absorbed moisture. If found, they are baked to drive off the moisture and re-installed. >> >> If you're not familiar with 'desiccant', it's the bags of particles you find in boxes containing pricey products that spent weeks in salt air making their way to store shelves. >> >> Should work for both the engine and the drive. The drive could be >> cleaned, re-lubed with fresh oil, and put in a big seal-able >> container (like Tupperware) with desiccant bags. (Dollar store >> storage bins won't do it.) Harder to box the engine like that, but a >> big heavy duty trash bag might help keep out most of the moisture, if >> you can seal the opening with good tape. Or roll it in multiple >> layers of shrink wrap.... :-) >> >> Charlie >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P wrote: >> >> >> What is recommended for long term storage of Tracy's PSRU? I was fortunate enough to have bought Chris' but It'll be a while before I get an engine. >> >> Luis >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:13 AM >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle >> >> Chris, >> Have heard of injecting auto transmission oil into a plug hole and rotating for each lobe of the rotors..........Do not use too much........You do not want a hydralic lock.......... >> >> Kelly Troyer >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Chris Barber wrote: >> >> >> I removed my second gen 13b from my plane. What is recommended by y'all to long term pickle of the engine (unless one of you fine fellows or gals would like to make me an offer. IVO prop and RD-B are already gone). It's just sitting around and I would like to preserve it. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Chris Barber >> >> Sent from my iPhone 5 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kelly Troyer >> Dyke Delta_"Eventually" >> 13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2 >> >> >> > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CF8183.2ADEFF30 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIISezCCA3Aw ggJYoAMCAQICAQUwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwWzELMAkGA1UEBhMCVVMxGDAWBgNVBAoTD1UuUy4g 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