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([2602:306:25fb:a3c9:c0e:c06e:794a:b194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mj5sm27257593igb.6.2014.06.06.08.31.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Jun 2014 08:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5391DEFD.8040802@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 10:32:13 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Google is your friend (even if they know you too well, most of the time). https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=boeshield Actually, I was surprised at how many places actually carry the stuff. (Wal Mart??) On 6/6/2014 9:19 AM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P wrote: > Interesting... where can we non-Boeing folk procure these products? > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:28 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle > > You're welcome. I should mention that once I removed the drive from the shipping box & hung it on the engine, I saw the beginning of corrosion on the prop drive lugs within a few months. They are steel, and unprotected by paint or plating of any sort. I sprayed them with 'Boeshield T-9' & that seemed to stop the corrosion in its tracks. IIRC, Boeshield & Boelube were developed by Boeing for corrosion protection and metal working lube. (Thanks to Bernie Kerr, an early rotary builder, for that tip.) > > Charlie > > On 6/4/2014 7:43 AM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P wrote: >> Awesome advice! Thanks Charlie!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 5:46 PM >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle >> >> I've got a drive that's at least 10 years old & has never flown. It's pristine inside, but spent most of its shelf life in relatively dry Arkansas (compared to MS, anyway...). Do you have any way to pump fresh oil through the bearings to get the used motor oil out? Might not be critical since there probably aren't a lot of hours on it (sorry, Chris...), but that's the most likely source of corrosion if you can keep it dry inside the case. >> >> Certified a/c engine guys are paranoid about corrosion (a/c engines corrode readily, and repair costs are heart stopping). An engine that will be stored for a long time (more than a few weeks, in some cases) gets 'desiccant' spark plugs, bags of desiccant stuffed into every orifice, and then everything sealed up. SOP is to check the desiccant plugs every few weeks, if possible, to see if they've changed color, indicating that they've absorbed moisture. If found, they are baked to drive off the moisture and re-installed. >> >> If you're not familiar with 'desiccant', it's the bags of particles you find in boxes containing pricey products that spent weeks in salt air making their way to store shelves. >> >> Should work for both the engine and the drive. The drive could be >> cleaned, re-lubed with fresh oil, and put in a big seal-able container >> (like Tupperware) with desiccant bags. (Dollar store storage bins >> won't do it.) Harder to box the engine like that, but a big heavy duty >> trash bag might help keep out most of the moisture, if you can seal >> the opening with good tape. Or roll it in multiple layers of shrink >> wrap.... :-) >> >> Charlie >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P wrote: >> >> >> What is recommended for long term storage of Tracy's PSRU? I was fortunate enough to have bought Chris' but It'll be a while before I get an engine. >> >> Luis >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:13 AM >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle >> >> Chris, >> Have heard of injecting auto transmission oil into a plug hole and rotating for each lobe of the rotors..........Do not use too much........You do not want a hydralic lock.......... >> >> Kelly Troyer >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Chris Barber wrote: >> >> >> I removed my second gen 13b from my plane. What is recommended by y'all to long term pickle of the engine (unless one of you fine fellows or gals would like to make me an offer. IVO prop and RD-B are already gone). It's just sitting around and I would like to preserve it. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Chris Barber >> >> Sent from my iPhone 5 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kelly Troyer >> Dyke Delta_"Eventually" >> 13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2 >> >> >> > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html