X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Charlie England" Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com ([209.85.212.171] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6918317 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 17:46:26 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.212.171; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id cc10so7410771wib.4 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 14:45:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5YoCpz/jFbVZFGNgHiZVLFsKAV3uMyn98xjR8Cm5k0A=; b=mwbSTGIzVC4C6Vp/inbSq56XCdIoW60BLQj/3Qbn8BNhDgIOKvwsMG7o8LR+bTlgGx jtEx1ZwY7Yr8M4dYrf0+1r5X7Yp5cQTe7Pbc99bibQ+qqzSJ8ultY57u98kgX+IYioRh z0IEKSp8dNELGgC2Q1jc5VwWAdHU48ghFCscXoYPY0QS4YmtuWr1HPpBtrW+Qh1cuZEn N5WFxWlqLhLrBvevUL1yB6eRn2L1JsaQ1Jf9zO+WsZvFE5O/aueX0jDxCOyDbLQdJYbW luW7dEPAB1NKrm9eh2Xjk0Pr8c8CSTHlB5WFGhaECz4NyuBLGHxDUp/XT+rH9wx79sv3 XyCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.221.229 with SMTP id qh5mr35868751wic.33.1401831951198; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 14:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.176.199 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:45:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 16:45:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135fbd67c6fa604faf56f8d --001a1135fbd67c6fa604faf56f8d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've got a drive that's at least 10 years old & has never flown. It's pristine inside, but spent most of its shelf life in relatively dry Arkansas (compared to MS, anyway...). Do you have any way to pump fresh oil through the bearings to get the used motor oil out? Might not be critical since there probably aren't a lot of hours on it (sorry, Chris...), but that's the most likely source of corrosion if you can keep it dry inside the case. Certified a/c engine guys are paranoid about corrosion (a/c engines corrode readily, and repair costs are heart stopping). An engine that will be stored for a long time (more than a few weeks, in some cases) gets 'desiccant' spark plugs, bags of desiccant stuffed into every orifice, and then everything sealed up. SOP is to check the desiccant plugs every few weeks, if possible, to see if they've changed color, indicating that they've absorbed moisture. If found, they are baked to drive off the moisture and re-installed. If you're not familiar with 'desiccant', it's the bags of particles you find in boxes containing pricey products that spent weeks in salt air making their way to store shelves. Should work for both the engine and the drive. The drive could be cleaned, re-lubed with fresh oil, and put in a big seal-able container (like Tupperware) with desiccant bags. (Dollar store storage bins won't do it.) Harder to box the engine like that, but a big heavy duty trash bag might help keep out most of the moisture, if you can seal the opening with good tape. Or roll it in multiple layers of shrink wrap.... :-) Charlie On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > What is recommended for long term storage of Tracy's PSRU? I was > fortunate enough to have bought Chris' but It'll be a while before I get an > engine. > > Luis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:13 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle > > Chris, > Have heard of injecting auto transmission oil into a plug hole and > rotating for each lobe of the rotors..........Do not use too > much........You do not want a hydralic lock.......... > > Kelly Troyer > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Chris Barber > wrote: > > > I removed my second gen 13b from my plane. What is recommended by > y'all to long term pickle of the engine (unless one of you fine fellows or > gals would like to make me an offer. IVO prop and RD-B are already gone). > It's just sitting around and I would like to preserve it. > > Thanks. > > Chris Barber > > Sent from my iPhone 5 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > -- > Kelly Troyer > Dyke Delta_"Eventually" > 13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2 > --001a1135fbd67c6fa604faf56f8d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've got a drive that's at least 10 years old &= ; has never flown. It's pristine inside, but spent most of its shelf li= fe in relatively dry Arkansas (compared to MS, anyway...). Do you have any = way to pump fresh oil through the bearings to get the used motor oil out? M= ight not be critical since there probably aren't a lot of hours on it (= sorry, Chris...), but that's the most likely source of corrosion if you= can keep it dry inside the case.

Certified a/c engine guys are paranoid about corrosion (a/c = engines corrode readily, and repair costs are heart stopping). An engine th= at will be stored for a long time (more than a few weeks, in some cases) ge= ts 'desiccant' spark plugs, bags of desiccant stuffed into every or= ifice, and then everything sealed up. SOP is to check the desiccant plugs e= very few weeks, if possible, to see if they've changed color, indicatin= g that they've absorbed moisture. If found, they are baked to drive off= the moisture and re-installed.

If you're not familiar with 'desiccant', it= 's the bags of particles =C2=A0you find in boxes containing pricey prod= ucts that spent weeks in salt air making their way to store shelves.
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Should work for both the engine and the drive. The drive cou= ld be cleaned, re-lubed with fresh oil, and put in a big seal-able containe= r (like Tupperware) with desiccant bags. (Dollar store storage bins won'= ;t do it.) Harder to box the engine like that, but a big heavy duty trash b= ag might help keep out most of the moisture, if you can seal the opening wi= th good tape. Or roll it in multiple layers of shrink wrap.... :-)

Charlie=C2=A0

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Luciano, Lu= is I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
What is recommended for long term storage of= Tracy's PSRU? =C2=A0I was fortunate enough to have bought Chris' b= ut It'll be a while before I get an engine.

Luis

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:13 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: In a pickle

Chris,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Have heard of injecting auto transmission oil into a plug hole= and rotating for each lobe of the rotors..........Do not use too much.....= ...You do not want a hydralic lock..........

Kelly Troyer


On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Chris Barber <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I removed my second gen 13b from my plane. What= is recommended by y'all to long term pickle of the engine (unless one = of you fine fellows or gals would like to make me an offer. IVO prop and RD= -B are already gone). It's just sitting around and I would like to pres= erve it.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chris Barber

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sent from my iPhone 5
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Homepage: =C2=A0http://www.flyrotary.com/
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Archive and UnSub: =C2=A0 http://= mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html





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