X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Neil Unger" Received: from nschwmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com ([61.9.189.152] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 6904311 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 24 May 2014 17:09:57 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=61.9.189.152; envelope-from=neil.unger@bigpond.com Received: from nschwcmgw07p ([61.9.190.167]) by nschwmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20140524210923.KLBX11190.nschwmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw07p> for ; Sat, 24 May 2014 21:09:23 +0000 Received: from UserPC ([124.179.81.178]) by nschwcmgw07p with BigPond Outbound id 5x9L1o0033qqTSs01x9LyM; Sat, 24 May 2014 21:09:23 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Os7NOlDt c=1 sm=1 a=wTkIehmKU18Oa2vX3vgeEA==:17 a=JDadKst33uMA:10 a=1IlZJK9HAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=51ZdVZDNtquoD2XLIEkA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=JVwAevFVyJ1J2uq5b1oA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Z1BvOZmT1TIA:10 a=wTkIehmKU18Oa2vX3vgeEA==:117 Message-ID: <29A2664FE4394AD8AB3703C91040899E@UserPC> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: start Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 07:09:19 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01CF77E8.3F1DCF70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CF77E8.3F1DCF70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Neil Unger=20 Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 6:42 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: start Steve, The problem is to get all the air out of the engine and rad = as well. I have a tail dragger so the rad is high at front while = stationery on tail wheel. So I have a bleed line from the front of the = rad ( highest point) then picks up a bleed point on top of the motor ( = Looking from the front it is on the right side on top of the iron plate) = then to a small header tank which is fitted with the rad cap. From this = tank another hose goes from the Rad pressure cap to an overflow tank of = approx a litre. The over flow tank is only ever filled to 1/3 while the = header tank is always full. The header tank is also fitted with a main = line to the water pump housing for water to fill into the engine, while = the bleed line vents air. If you have water in the oil it will soon = become milky. To test for leaks get a radiator pressure tester which = will soon show if you have any problem there. You have hopefully only = picked up condensation in the sump. Sounds good Neil. From: steve Izett=20 Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:37 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: start Thanks Charlie. =20 That makes sense to me.=20 Didn=92t understand the part of your sentence: =93=85..and the radiator = 'overflow vent' is open to the top tank of the radiator, instead of = being above a pressure cap seal.=94 Appreciate the comments. Steve On 24 May 2014, at 9:53 am, Charlie England = wrote:=20 In this case, and in Len's drawing, the swirl tank/reservoir is at = cooling system pressure (pressure cap is on the swirl tank) and the = radiator 'overflow vent' is open to the top tank of the radiator, = instead of being above a pressure cap seal. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CF77E8.3F1DCF70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
From: Neil Unger
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: start
 
Steve,
           &n= bsp;=20 The problem is to get all the air out of the engine and rad as well. I = have a=20 tail dragger so the rad is high at front while stationery on tail = wheel. =20 So I have a bleed line from the front of the rad ( highest point) then = picks=20 up  a bleed point on top of the motor ( Looking from the front it = is on the=20 right side on top of the iron plate) then to a small header tank which = is fitted=20 with the rad cap.  From this tank another hose goes from the Rad = pressure=20 cap to an overflow tank of approx a litre.  The over flow tank is = only ever=20 filled to 1/3 while the header tank is always full. The header tank is = also=20 fitted with a main line to the water pump housing for water to fill into = the=20 engine, while the bleed line vents air.    If you have = water in=20 the oil it will soon become milky.  To test for leaks get a = radiator=20 pressure tester which will soon show if you have any problem = there.  You=20 have hopefully only picked up condensation in the sump.  Sounds = good=20 Neil.
 
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: start
 
Thanks=20 Charlie. =20
That makes sense to me.
Didn=92t understand the part of your sentence: =93=85..and the = radiator 'overflow=20 vent' is open to the top tank of the radiator, instead of being above a = pressure=20 cap seal.=94
 
Appreciate the comments.
 
Steve
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
On 24 May 2014, at 9:53 am, Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>=20 wrote:=20

In=20 this case, and in Len's drawing, the swirl tank/reservoir is at = cooling system=20 pressure (pressure cap is on the swirl tank) and the radiator = 'overflow vent'=20 is open to the top tank of the radiator, instead of being above a = pressure cap=20 seal.
 
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