X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yk0-f173.google.com ([209.85.160.173] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6766534 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 18:05:09 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.173; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by mail-yk0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 10so15063489ykt.4 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:04:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=kgUqZcEO2euVpWjEzWSLtnOaA9qhYyBPZA84Xx4VNN8=; b=EZA1WLlJIHnd8DWosN2VJvC7gGNTisMKY6nXo7EyHmMAJTpASbbQS1ZovhDmhYt6Ab JCnQwSTWmGmP1rADknSr/2+mB/m+NJFf3vXCybnwdqwmuMk3kqtvGSQltWfg+1qEE0nc O9XuKqv3CTQJ1/AjfLcX+IxWvNU5HYUD6Z3yYvu1Iphbup3bu+y6ScDlLGay/qaKyLcl I6Q8jZagSR8Nw49y/VfLB7P0oLilTQWJnt9WB1DuoPFi83cm9rVZjjngYnJoq+na27dW Gd3vqZwJjJPp1MRcXgxkh2WSNVH7jAEJwHlh5EGQJDbBkqUzKHWp6JoB2yQscirMeqwa AU/g== X-Received: by 10.236.129.198 with SMTP id h46mr33401314yhi.17.1394319873144; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:04:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [75.253.249.160] (160.sub-75-253-249.myvzw.com. [75.253.249.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m9sm41920559yha.2.2014.03.08.15.04.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:04:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Leaking input shaft References: From: Tracy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-AF4508B2-1D40-4D7E-96F4-59D7D8904087 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B651) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9C3EA1A7-2972-4B47-B4D7-EFA42A887415@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 18:04:28 -0500 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-AF4508B2-1D40-4D7E-96F4-59D7D8904087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK Alex, I'll get it updated soon. I've put off doing that until you are ready s= o that it has the latest software. Made quite a few refinements since I las= t saw you. Tracy Sent from my iPad > On Mar 8, 2014, at 9:06, alex wrote: >=20 > Hey Tracy, i=E2=80=99m going to need my EC2 back to get my plane in the ai= r as well - Alex Molteno >=20 >=20 >> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Tracy wrote: >> Neil's advice was right on. When installed, there should be virtually n= o side play but there is nothing to restrain it when removed from the engine= other than the pilot bearing on the prop shaft and that alone would allow i= t to wobble about quite a bit. The clearance on that bearing is fairly larg= e in order to flow enough cooling oil for the gears. >>=20 >> Tracy >>=20 >> PS: Congrats on getting 400 hours in your plane Christian, and to Bob on= that great article in Experimenter. I always get a kick out of hearing tha= t rotary powered planes are out there and flying. >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >> > On Mar 8, 2014, at 3:13, Christamarmc wrote: >> > >> > Cheers Neil >> > Just wondering how much play there should be, but seal is worn so will r= eplace and see how it goes. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Sent from my iPad >> > >> >> On 08/03/2014, at 5:49 PM, "Neil Unger" wrote= : >> >> >> >> Chris, >> >> That shaft is held true in the flywheel and in the planetries t= he other end. Once removed I suspect that the shaft would be "moveable" as y= ou describe. Suggest a new seal and see what happens. hours is reasonable f= or a simple 1 inch seal. Neil. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Christamarmc >> >> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 4:06 PM >> >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Leaking input shaft >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> Just wondering whether anyone can tell me what the play side to side s= hould be in the rd1c gearbox input shaft and what to expect from the oil sea= l, i can move the input shaft a little and see a visible gap on the input se= al once removed from the motor.Motor has done approx 400 hrs. >> >> Just reinstalled the motor after some work and noticed oil dribbling f= rom under the flywheel, thus why it was removed. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Christian >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Li= st.html >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/= List.html >> > >> > -- >> > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/L= ist.html >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Lis= t.html >=20 --Apple-Mail-AF4508B2-1D40-4D7E-96F4-59D7D8904087 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK Alex,
    I'll g= et it updated soon.  I've put off doing that until you are ready so tha= t it has the latest software.  Made quite a few refinements since I las= t saw you.

Tracy

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 8, 2014, at 9:06, alex <alex.molteno@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Tracy, i=E2=80=99m going to need my EC2 back= to get my plane in the air as well - Alex Molteno


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Tr= acy <rwstracy@gmail.com> wrote:
Neil's advice was right on.   When instal= led, there should be virtually no side play but there is nothing to restrain= it when removed from the engine other than the pilot bearing on the prop sh= aft and that alone would allow it to wobble about quite a bit.  The cle= arance on that bearing is fairly large in order to flow enough cooling oil f= or the gears.

Tracy

PS:  Congrats on getting 400 hours in your plane Christian, and to Bob o= n that great article in Experimenter.  I always get a kick out of heari= ng that rotary powered planes are out there and flying.

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 8, 2014, at 3:13, Christamarmc <christamarmc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cheers Neil
> Just wondering how much play there should be, but seal is worn so will r= eplace and see how it goes.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 08/03/2014, at 5:49 PM, "Neil Unger" <neil.unger@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>> Chris,
>>         That shaft is held true in the flywheel= and in the planetries the other end.  Once removed I suspect that the s= haft would be "moveable" as you describe.  Suggest a new seal and see w= hat happens.  hours is reasonable for a simple 1 inch seal.  Neil.=
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Christamarmc
>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 4:06 PM
>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Leaking input shaft
>>
>>
>> Hi all
>> Just wondering whether anyone can tell me what the play side to sid= e should be in the rd1c gearbox input shaft and what to expect from the oil s= eal, i can move the input shaft a little and see a visible gap on the input s= eal once removed from the motor.Motor has done approx 400 hrs.
>> Just reinstalled the motor after some work and noticed oil dribblin= g from under the flywheel, thus why it was removed.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>> Sent from my iPad
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