X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yk0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6766523 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 17:58:43 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.169; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by mail-yk0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 142so15072581ykq.0 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 14:58:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=2CScucXFjS8gkqObFtQt9wLU4VDY7R7Nhc43yKigNm4=; b=Q6hSpYicSk/jRnn9OK5zR2nkwVJ9S4+bERM/wWtgLUJFT9tO/eIom++grJl8VHthfA 2Vwb8igtUTQxl4JEEZrehgKWMGxH0vbpvoJG45XJ+IeUf6YmSOy24YngifNpdlDjhqRO GcjBlvlJqUrepdyDe+TRZV4/AcTBt/RKdGyDB5D8OuVHR+UWHyfNu4TMZJwB6MgohUX3 wyhmBabLqrgFqTIXzGgo5n7RXuO5nY7J0UY/zOW1TZwlT5v+ZSLiRvqexdZKpdEZTWRo xuswq8eYYlGXU3Ki9er4MVunliCfEgZBVech6f6HScRZRh+8xZKP/ei9S1KX1Omnn7U4 3F6A== X-Received: by 10.236.136.231 with SMTP id w67mr33378369yhi.53.1394319488060; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 14:58:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [75.253.249.160] (160.sub-75-253-249.myvzw.com. [75.253.249.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g26sm41869800yhk.3.2014.03.08.14.58.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Mar 2014 14:58:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Leaking input shaft References: From: Tracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B651) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 17:58:03 -0500 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Just FYI, I have found that life of the input shaft seal is closely related= to oil temperature. The hotter the oil temp, the sooner the seal gets har= d and looses its elasticity and ability to seal. Tracy Sent from my iPad > On Mar 8, 2014, at 15:17, Christamarmc wrote: >=20 > Hi Tracy > Many thanks for the input, I have removed the seal and she was a bit hard f= rom use, so a new one is being installed and should fix it. Certainly love f= lying behind the rotary. >=20 > Cheers > Christian >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 >> On 08/03/2014, at 10:39 PM, Tracy wrote: >>=20 >> Neil's advice was right on. When installed, there should be virtually n= o side play but there is nothing to restrain it when removed from the engine= other than the pilot bearing on the prop shaft and that alone would allow i= t to wobble about quite a bit. The clearance on that bearing is fairly larg= e in order to flow enough cooling oil for the gears. =20 >>=20 >> Tracy >>=20 >> PS: Congrats on getting 400 hours in your plane Christian, and to Bob on= that great article in Experimenter. I always get a kick out of hearing tha= t rotary powered planes are out there and flying. >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 3:13, Christamarmc wrote: >>>=20 >>> Cheers Neil >>> Just wondering how much play there should be, but seal is worn so will r= eplace and see how it goes. >>>=20 >>> Cheers >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPad >>>=20 >>>> On 08/03/2014, at 5:49 PM, "Neil Unger" wrote:= >>>>=20 >>>> Chris, >>>> That shaft is held true in the flywheel and in the planetries the= other end. Once removed I suspect that the shaft would be "moveable" as yo= u describe. Suggest a new seal and see what happens. hours is reasonable f= or a simple 1 inch seal. Neil. >>>>=20 >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Christamarmc >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 4:06 PM >>>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >>>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Leaking input shaft >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Hi all >>>> Just wondering whether anyone can tell me what the play side to side sh= ould be in the rd1c gearbox input shaft and what to expect from the oil seal= , i can move the input shaft a little and see a visible gap on the input sea= l once removed from the motor.Motor has done approx 400 hrs. >>>> Just reinstalled the motor after some work and noticed oil dribbling fr= om under the flywheel, thus why it was removed. >>>>=20 >>>> Cheers >>>> Christian >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Lis= t.html=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/L= ist.html >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Li= st.html >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Lis= t.html >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html