X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com ([17.172.220.238] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.6) with ESMTP id 6461159 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 21:42:02 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.172.220.238; envelope-from=markmcclure@me.com Received: from [10.0.1.5] (ip70-160-229-64.hr.hr.cox.net [70.160.229.64]) by st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MSV00H8FZCV4L80@st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 01:41:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-10_01:2013-09-09,2013-09-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309090166 From: Mark McClure MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E0448F24-167E-4FE9-A6CF-3751057753F3" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Flame Detection Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 21:44:01 -0400 In-reply-to: To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-id: <25221211-BD92-448F-8FC6-EE5E60DDBC7F@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) --Apple-Mail=_E0448F24-167E-4FE9-A6CF-3751057753F3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Bill, In the helicopter I fly we have a fire detection system and an = extinguishing system. First step of the EP for an engine fire is = "Confirm Fire" - stick your head out and see if it is actually on fire. = The point being that sunlight can cause a false indication. I have a = crewman who can look aft to see. would there be anyway to look back in = the pusher to see if there are fire indications? I have also flown behind systems that used a heat sensor that are much = more accurate - I dont think they would work well in a rotary though.=20 Dont know the UV Tron system but something to think about. Mark On Sep 8, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Mark Steitle wrote: > Bill,=20 >=20 > Yes, that was me. No, I'm not using it presently. I think the sensor = failed, and I never bought a replacement. It is called a UV Tron = sensor. If you google "UV Tron fire detection sensor" you will get lots = of information on how to utilize this device. There are companies that = sell a pre-built circuit board with sensor.=20 >=20 > Good luck. > Mark >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 11:06 AM, William Schertz = wrote: > Mark Steitle, > Back at the rotary fly-in at Pecan Plantation, you demo=92d a flame = detection sensor and circuit. > =20 > 1. Are you using this? > 2. Can you give details on parts/circuits =96 a fellow builder at my = airport would be very interested, since he has a pusher, and another = builder had an engine fire that could have been a disaster. > =20 > Bill Schertz >=20 --Apple-Mail=_E0448F24-167E-4FE9-A6CF-3751057753F3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

I have also flown behind systems = that used a heat sensor that are much more accurate - I dont think they = would work well in a rotary though.

Dont = know the UV Tron system but something to think = about.

Mark

On Sep 8, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Mark Steitle = wrote:

Bill,

Yes, that = was me. No, I'm not using it presently. I think the sensor = failed, and I never bought a replacement. It is called a UV Tron = sensor. If you google "UV Tron fire detection sensor" you will get = lots of information on how to utilize this device. There are = companies that sell a pre-built circuit board with sensor.

Good luck.
Mark

On Sun, Sep 8, = 2013 at 11:06 AM, William Schertz <wschertz@comcast.net> wrote:

Mark Steitle,

Back at the rotary fly-in at Pecan Plantation, you demo=92d a flame = detection=20 sensor and circuit.

1. Are you using this?

2. Can you give details on parts/circuits =96 a fellow builder at = my airport=20 would be very interested, since he has a pusher, and another builder had = an=20 engine fire that could have been a disaster.

Bill Schertz

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