Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #60195
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: First Flight jitters
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:01:52 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
What Tracy said about prop chord.
 
Had a friend who spent months trying to get his Renesis above 5000 rpm – confirmed that he had a 74x88 prop – same as mine.  Later on during my first visit – it was very clear what the problem was.  His diameter and pitch were the same, however his  prop chord was on the order of 8” whereas mine was around 5 1/4”.  We put my prop on his engine and he had no problem getting 6000 + rpm.  So measure your chord and let us know.
 
Ed
 
From: Tracy
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 4:57 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First Flight jitters
 
You are either over propped or something is wrong with the engine or tuning.   At 37" mp you should be in the 5500-6000  rpm range.   You didn't give the rpm at 16" mp and 11 deg BTDC so I can't tell if timing is in the ballpark or not.  Is that the same rpm as your hat blew off (3000)?  If so, you may be too retarded.
 
And of course we need your prop numbers to make a guess about anything.  Prop chord at 70% on blade is good to know too.  Do you have one of those wide chord airboat type props?
 
Tracy

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On Sep 9, 2013, at 0:47, shipchief@aol.com wrote:

I've been slowly building my RV-8 with 13BT engine for about 14 years...!
On June 13th 2013 it received the coveted Airworthiness Certificate. That same day I detonated my engine due to the trailing spark plug holes being machined oversize in an attempt to improve the single spark plug power, should the leading plug ignition fail. This, and possibly advanced ignition, and possibly over-boost detonated my engine on it's first high power taxi test. That took about 2.5 seconds.
Now I've rebuilt the engine with new unmodified rotor housings, and it runs better than ever. I've re-marked the timing marks on the pulley, and reset the timing, though not to 4000 RPM yet. today I checked it. At 3000 RPM my hat and hearing protection blew off. 11 degrees BTDC, and 16" manifold pressure.
I've been taxiing around at modest RPM, it's great. I've consistently been idling at about 1600 RPM, (730 prop RPM) and sometimes as low as 1490, (680 Prop RPM) smoothly. That is slow enough to keep the brakes from getting too hot.
I've done run ups and brief bursts of power to 4200 Engine RPM, (1917 Prop RPM) which is about 32" manifold pressure, and seen 37" manifold pressure briefly. I know this is not enough power to take off, although I have done a Pre-take off to 50 MPH with this power before powering down with roll out to the end of the runway.  I suppose it would fly off and maybe clear the trees at this power. I've lifted the tail, and rocked the wings with the ailerons. It steers well and the brakes work.
The water level in the engine stays up between flights as does the oil, and the water temp today was consistent 163 F oil  about 173 with the highest observed 183F. I did about 4 pre-take off passes with taxi back, with excellent temperature control and throttle response.
A couple of oil fitting were tightened looking for an oil seep.
7.3 hours engine running time on the EM2, about 2 hours since the engine overhaul.
I don't think I'm at all ready to fly this thing. I'm missing something, so offer up some advice, I'm all ears!

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