X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6084943 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:15:05 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.53; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-98-85-148-245.mco.bellsouth.net[98.85.148.245]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20130226181428H030076ofoe>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:14:28 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [98.85.148.245] From: "Bill Bradburry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B. Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:14:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01CE1423.36DF7C70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac4US/ETudLKNY/jRCKjZ01Xswz8WgAARdgQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01CE1423.36DF7C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You don't need the heater in our application. Why hook it up? _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:05 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B. Richard, regarding the Ellison TB I have a friend who tried an Ellison on his rotary - never could get the low end and high end to work together. It appeared that (at least for the size Ellison he was using) that the range of airflow quantity below idle and WOT was outside the range of the size Ellison he was using. If he got the idle set right, he ran out of fuel on the top end. If he got the top end running right, the idle was too rich. His engine eventually quit in flight, airframe was destroyed - he fortunately escaped injury. Just thought I would pass it on for what its worth. Most O2 heater voltages are 12 -13 Volts - but, not certain about the Renesis O2. Sensor output for narrow band is generally from 0 -1 volt, Wide band from 0 -5 volts. Ed Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com From: Richard Sohn Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:27 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B. I am planing to use an O2 sensor from a 2009 Renesis on my test engine. Does anyone know what the heater supply is? I am measureing 2.4Ohm, cold. Probably 5V? The connection is coming out of the ECU. Would appreciate any info on that. Still having issues with the mixture setting on the Rotec TBI (Ellison). No real flying yet, just a lot of crow-hopping down the runway. Richard Sohn N2071U http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html From: hoursaway1@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:32 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B. Forgot to say, under diog. for RX8 they call both sensors HO2 not AF. ??? David. _____ From: hoursaway1@comcast.net To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:29:12 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] O2 Sensor data, Steve B. Steve, another update on O2 sensor data,,, for a 2007 RX8 frnt. HO2 sensor is read in mil. Amps,,, 1.0 mil. amp is center point under accell is looking for decrease, under deccell looking for increase, did not give min.-max. for the high & low that I think could have been useful. David. _____ From: "Steven W. Boese" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:50:49 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets & progress David, Do you remember ballpark values for the amps and volts? Thanks, Steve _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of hoursaway1@comcast.net [hoursaway1@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 7:19 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets & progress Steve, I'm not sure why but when diog. the other day on 07 Mazda 3 for a code P2188, Snap-on scanner shows me amps for pre cat. AF sensor & volts for post cat. O2 sensor & that is how they describe them in Mitchel Automotive diog. text. Hope this helps in some way. David R. Cook RV6A Rotary. _____ -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6130 - Release Date: 02/25/13 ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01CE1423.36DF7C70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You don’t need the heater in = our application.  Why hook it up?

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, February = 26, 2013 1:05 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = O2 Sensor data, Steve B.

 

Richard, regarding the  Ellison = TB

 

I have a friend who tried an Ellison on his rotary - = never could get the low end and high end to work together.  It appeared = that (at least for the size Ellison he was using) that the range of airflow = quantity below idle and WOT was outside the range of the size Ellison he was using.  If he got the idle set right, he ran out of fuel on the top end.  If he got the top end running right, the idle was too = rich.

 

His engine eventually quit in flight, airframe was = destroyed - he fortunately escaped injury.  Just thought I would pass it on = for what its worth.

 

Most O2 heater voltages are 12 -13 Volts - but, not = certain about the Renesis O2.

Sensor output for narrow band is generally  from = 0 -1 volt, Wide band from 0 -5 volts.

 

Ed

 

Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton = Road
Weddington, = NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com=

 

From: Richard Sohn

Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:27 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B.

 

I am planing = to use an O2 sensor from a 2009 Renesis on my test engine. Does anyone know what = the heater supply is? I am measureing 2.4Ohm, cold. Probably 5V? The = connection is coming out of the ECU.

Would = appreciate any info on that.

Still having = issues with the mixture setting on the Rotec TBI (Ellison). No real flying yet, = just a lot of crow-hopping down the runway.

 

Richard = Sohn
N2071U

http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html

 

Sent: Tuesday, = February 26, 2013 8:32 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B.

 

Forgot to say, under diog. for RX8 they call both sensors HO2 not AF.  = ???  David.

From: hoursaway1@comcast.net
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February = 26, 2013 9:29:12 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] O2 = Sensor data,  Steve B.

Steve, another update on O2 sensor data,,, for a 2007 RX8 frnt. HO2 sensor is = read in mil. Amps,,, 1.0 mil. amp is center point under accell is looking for decrease,  under deccell looking for increase,  did not give min.-max. for the high & low that I think could have been = useful.  David.

From: "Steven W. Boese" <SBoese@uwyo.edu>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, February = 11, 2013 9:50:49 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Crickets & progress

David,

 

Do you remember ballpark values for the = amps and volts?

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on = behalf of hoursaway1@comcast.net [hoursaway1@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, February = 11, 2013 7:19 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Crickets & progress

Steve, I'm not sure why but when diog. the other day on 07 Mazda 3 for a code P2188,  Snap-on scanner shows me amps for pre cat. AF sensor & = volts for post cat. O2 sensor & that is how they describe them in Mitchel Automotive diog. text.  Hope this helps in some way.  David R. = Cook  RV6A Rotary.

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