Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.102] (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 3041734 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 07:55:07 -0500 Received: from edward (clt78-020.carolina.rr.com [24.93.78.20]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i1NCt4aC028683 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 07:55:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000a01c3fa0c$484d6890$2402a8c0@edward> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Primer valve? Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 07:55:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Finn Lassen" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:57 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Primer valve? > In order to cold start the engine I still have to blow a bit of fuel in > through a sparkplug hole. I don't particularily facy this procedure: > remove cowling and a sparkplug, squirt gas into the hole, put plug back > in and cowling back on, and then start and go fly. > > I have the two injection holes in the center housing blocked off. I'm > considering the idea of adding an electric valve between (pressurized) > fuel lines to carbs and one of those holes. > > Anybody got a good source for a solenoid valve (closed when no power)? > > Of course the big burning question is: what changed? I did not have > problems starting before the overhaul. > I really have to remember to bring my compression tester next time I go > to the airport. > Choke passages in carbs clogged? > > 1.6 hours in the air today (mostly between 4500-4800 RPM - only one > radiator). Highest water temp seen today: 98C. I'm trying not to > overheat it too badly (although during full-power ground run-up Friday > temps reached 108C after idle or shut-down). > > Will try to get new left radiator mounted this week. > > Finn Finn, One possibility on the cold start problem. Even with an injector to squirt fuel (regardless of air flow) into the intake runners, I have found starting on cold mornings takes a bit of cranking. When I had injectors in the block it was no problem, but when I moved then away from the block the problem on cold mornings be came a bit more problematic. I suspect that with a carburetor which is dependent on air flow for proper fuel metering, low air flow during cranking might make it more of a problem. Don't know whether you have anything like an "accelerator pump" on your carburetor, I suspect not. So if you have low cranking rpm or possibly an air leak that would reduce fuel metering, that possibly could contribute to the situation. Regarding a solenoid, the Lycomings often have a primer pump for cold starting. In some cases this is manual plunge pump but they also sell primer solenoids which are electrically controlled. Check AirCraft Spruce. Ed Anderson