| Thanks Tracy. All good, see it on the diagrams now. Steve Izett On 09/01/2013, at 10:33 PM, Tracy wrote: I'm not sure I can pinpoint the serial numbers but if your original installation guide wire list showed an O2 input (labeled as UNUSED at that time) is is updatable to the closed loop version. I think anything with a serial number higher than 300 had them. All of the rectangular case EC2's had O2 input.
Tracy
Sent from my iPad Hi Tracy Could you clarify what delineates the point where the EC2 has O2 sensor input so I can ascertain if mine can take your latest closed loop software?
Cheers
Steve Izett
On 09/01/2013, at 9:32 PM, Tracy wrote: There have been many updates in the past 4 years, but none of them have been mandatory. Send it in for an update and I'll check everything out at the same time.
Tracy
Sent from my iPad
Brian, AFAIK the upgrade in ’07 is the latest
one. I have not heard of an upgrade since that one on the EC-2. Discounting
the one that Tracy
has ready now of course. Bill B
Oh yeah, I did also have my ECU upgraded
in the last two years, made a huge difference. Maybe you should get that done
first to rule that out as a factor.
Brian
Trubee
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From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
<flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 8, 2013 1:56 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Aeroquip hose changed to hiccup
I don’t know what is early. The last
upgrade was Nov ’07. What do I need to do to get the new upgrade
installed?
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
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On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013
12:00 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Aeroquip
hose changed to hiccup
Yes, bench testing on the EC2 version is
complete. Don't know what vintage your EC2 is but the early ones did not
have O2 sensor inputs and can't take advantage of the closed loop modes.
That is unrelated to the possible cause of the hiccup though.
I went thru and cleaned up all my grounds
and it seems to have fixed everything with the exception of the hiccup.
Tracy, have you finished the bench testing on the EC-2 upgrade
yet? I would really like to try and see if that will fix this
problem. My wife really doesn’t like that hiccup!
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
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On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012
3:41 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Aeroquip
hose
I currently have a separate ground from
each of the batteries to a Nuckolls “forest of tabs” ground point.
Everything inside the cockpit grounds here. Also the fuel pumps and
injectors ground here. The coils ground on the center iron. There
are separate grounds from each battery to the PSRU plate on each side of the
starter. I have considered bringing two separate grounds from the center
iron to the batteries just in case there is resistance getting from the center
iron to the PSRU plate.
I am also taking all my grounds apart to
check for corrosion or anything that seems that it might not be properly
bonded.
I am doing this for two reasons.
One, I am still getting that occasional “hiccup” that is violent enough to shake
the plane when it happens. It is bad enough that I am concerned that it
might be bad for the pin in the PSRU. I am also wondering if it could be
the PSRU that has sheared the pin and is slipping? Someone on here had
that happen and I would really appreciate a description of what that sounded
and felt like and also how I could make certain that is not the problem.
No, I don’t want to dismantle the PSRU to check it unless that seems to be the
only way to check it.
Also, Tracy, how are you progressing on getting the
upgrade for the EC-2 that might fix this hiccup if that is what it is? I
think you had it done for the EC-3 and were working on the EC-2
implementation??
The second reason for going thru the
grounds is that I am having an intermittent problem with my GTX327 transponder,
MFD150 moving map, and TruTrak autopilot shutting down. This seems to
happen more often when I key the mike on my GNS430W radio, but keying the mike
is not required. It sometimes happens just out of the blue. Also
most of the time, only the transponder shuts off. Only sometimes does the
moving map and autopilot join in the fun.
Everybody tells me that it sounds like a
ground issue, hence I am going thru the ground system.
I welcome all opinions and input!
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
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On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012
10:56 AM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Aeroquip
hose
Tying the engine parts together should not
be necessary but you still need a separate ground from battery to airframe
ground (if metal) and your avionics ground point. Also separate
feeds from +12 battery to starter/alternator and avionics. You can Use
the starter/alternator feed for coils, injectors & fuel pumps to keep noise
down on the avionics bus.
Tracy
Several months ago, after a discussion
with Tracy, I
ran grounding straps from each battery to the PSRU plate on both sides of the
starter mount. I had previously had the grounding strap running between
the center iron and the “forest of tabs” grounding block on the firewall.
Tracy suggested
I move it so the starter amps would not get into the grounding block.
Now I have the igniters grounded on the
center iron and I am considering running a ground strap from the center iron to
the batteries or trying to tie each section of the engine “sandwich” together
by running a wire between them. This would to be certain that the ground
is good on the igniters.
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
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On Behalf Of Andrew Martin
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012
8:29 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Aeroquip
hose
Bill
As Mark says + make sure you have a ground cable/strap connected battery direct
to your starter. Do not expect starter to ground through your engine without
problems.
I remember Tracy
posting on this issue years ago just a bit hard to find in the archives now.
Andrew
You may want to check your engine ground.
Starter current may be causing this.
I am working on cleaning up my ground
system and I noticed that I have
several, 3 or 4, places on my SS braided fuel hose that appears to be burnt
like it had an electrical spark exit from it. I have not found anything
in
the vicinity of these places that look like where the spark? would have
jumped??
Has anyone seen something like this and what should I do about it? Do I
have a ground problem in the engine compartment or is this maybe static?
The hoses are covered by SS and are connected on one end to a filter that
has a ground strap on it and on the other end to the fuel rail which is
grounded to the engine.
Bill B
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