Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #59095
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Temperature rise Re: [FlyRotary] Re: skydivers-supersonic-24-mile-jump
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:19:49 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Temperature  of a gas is based on the relative velocity of the atoms/molecules - so where the air is thin the average velocity of the molecules is much higher because they don't "bump" into other molecules as frequently.  So once you leave the troposphere, the temperature starts to increase at some point and continues to increase into space.
 
 In outer space the "temperature" is in the thousands (or more degrees) - but because the density is so very low there is not any "heat" content to mention in a cubic unit of air - so no risk of frying our astronauts (at least due to ambient temperature)
 
As you go lower, the air becomes denser, the average velocity of the air molecule slows down (temperature drops) and even though the air mass per cubic unit is increasing,  the  drop in velocity causes the ambient temperature to become colder.
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At least that is best I recall if from long ago
 
Ed

Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:54 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: skydivers-supersonic-24-mile-jump







Jarrett Johnson <hjjohnson@sasktel.net> wrote:

"""
Some of that temp rise will be aerodynamic heating. I know at 280knts and
24,000ft I'm seeing 10-15decC rise in temp... At 800+mph the temp rise would
be a lot higher, even at 70K+ ft.
"""
Airspeed definitely wasn't the case here.. this was during the ascent, when he was rising about 1000fpm, maybe less (don't remember exactly) but his speed over the ground had by then diminished to 15-20 knots, just floating along with the flow up there.  I, too, am curious about why ambient temps started to rise as altitude increased... I'd have figured it to just keep going down right in step with the ambient pressure.  It'll be way interesting to hear the actual reason.

  <marv>

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