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From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15ad0352c81804c7a7fb24 --047d7b15ad0352c81804c7a7fb24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Chris, If the thermostat spring & piston are missing from the RX-7 cooler, then you'll be bypassing a good portion of the oil around the core. The cooler will pretty much be along for the ride, but nothing else. Mark On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Chris Barber wrote: > I am gonna leave it be. My cooling went from terrible to cant really ask > for much better (even if I hope to be able to decrease the size of my big > 'ol ugly scoop as I progress). Adding a protective blister/fairing is not > too big a deal, just would have preferred "better" plumping routes > > Thanks. > > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone 4 > > On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:31 AM, "Ed Anderson" > wrote: > > > If you just remove the oil thermostat in the stock Mazda oil cooler - > you will seriously impair your oil cooling ability. The removal will > permit major oil flow directly from input port to output port without going > through the cooling coils of the oil cooler. > > > > It is likely that you could block the cross feed hole - and remove the > thermostat, but I suspect it won't be easy. > > > > Looking at the diagram in the RX-7 manual, it appears that if you could > find a threaded plug (undoubtedly metric threads with an hex socket head > for inserting Allen wrench and tightening) that would screw up into the > thermostat hole - you could block the oil cross feed. Then you would, of > course need to block the normal outlet port and find an oil fitting that > will screw into the hole where the large plug now exists. I've never > looked but I suspect you may have trouble finding such. > > > > Good luck > > > > Ed > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Bobby J. Hughes" > > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:17 PM > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Standard oil cooler port. > > > >> Chris > >> > >> I think the thermostat hole can be plugged but I don't know the details. > >> > >> Bobby Hughes > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:57 PM, "Chris Barber" > wrote: > >> > >>> On the standard Mazda oil cooler there is a port next to and 90 > degrees off from the port on the end of the cooler. What is this port for? > There is a large hex topped bolt in the hole. > >>> > >>> Could I use this location to run a line to instead of the one on the > end? It would greatly clean up a plumbing issue I have as currently my the > port on the end protrudes out of my cowl slightly. If I can use this other > port I could likely eliminate adding a blister. > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> 2nd gen 13b > >>> 1.6 hrs As of yesterday. Flight five. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone 4 > >>> -- > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>> Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >> > > > > > > > >> -- > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >> > > > > > > > >> ----- > >> No virus found in this message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5208 - Release Date: > 08/18/12 > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --047d7b15ad0352c81804c7a7fb24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris,=A0

If the thermostat spring & piston are miss= ing from the RX-7 cooler, then you'll be bypassing a good portion of th= e oil around the core. =A0The cooler will pretty much be along for the ride= , but nothing else. =A0

Mark =A0=A0

On Sun, A= ug 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net> wrote:
I am gonna leave it be. My cooling went from= terrible to cant really ask for much better (even if I hope to be able to = decrease the size of my big 'ol ugly scoop as I progress). Adding a pro= tective blister/fairing is not too big a deal, just would have preferred &q= uot;better" plumping routes

Thanks.

Chris

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:31 AM, "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

> If you just remove the oil thermostat in the stock Mazda oil cooler - = you will seriously impair your oil cooling ability. =A0The removal will per= mit major oil flow directly from input port to output port without going th= rough the cooling coils of the oil cooler.
>
> It is likely that you could block the cross feed hole - and remove the= thermostat, but I suspect it won't be easy.
>
> Looking at the diagram in the RX-7 manual, it appears that if you coul= d find a threaded plug (undoubtedly metric threads with an hex socket head = for inserting Allen wrench and tightening) that would screw up into the the= rmostat hole - you could block the oil cross feed. =A0Then you would, of co= urse need to block the normal outlet port and find an oil fitting that will= screw =A0into the hole where the large plug now exists. =A0I've never = looked but I suspect you may have trouble finding such.
>
> Good luck
>
> Ed
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:17 PM
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Standard oil cooler port.
>
>> Chris
>>
>> I think the thermostat hole can be plugged but I don't know th= e details.
>>
>> Bobby Hughes
>>
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>>
>
>
>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:57 PM, "Chris Barber" <cbarber@texasattorney.net> wro= te:
>>
>>> On the standard Mazda oil cooler there is a port next to and 9= 0 degrees off from the port on the end of the cooler. What is this port for= ? =A0There is a large hex topped bolt in the hole.
>>>
>>> Could I use this location to run a line to instead of the one = on the end? It would greatly clean up a plumbing issue I have as currently = my the port on the end protrudes out of my cowl slightly. If I can use this= other port I could likely eliminate adding a blister.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> 2nd gen 13b
>>> 1.6 hrs As of yesterday. Flight five.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 4
>>> --
>>> Homepage: =A0http://www.flyrotary.com/
>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net= :81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
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