X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [208.71.9.254] (HELO sophosva.demersbeaulne.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.6) with SMTP id 5657406 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:38:28 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=208.71.9.254; envelope-from=edeslauriers@demersbeaulne.com Received: from sophosva.demersbeaulne.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 27DE6194B21_06BC31B for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:37:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.demersbeaulne.com (db-4.demersbeaulne.com [172.16.0.24]) by sophosva.demersbeaulne.com (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id B0C52194B29_06BC30F for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:37:52 +0000 (GMT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD64EA.869318F4" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Electrical Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:37:49 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Electrical Thread-Index: Ac1kV28edyb2+d0eR5uMVLcejCqakQAkuS/g References: From: "Eric Deslauriers" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD64EA.869318F4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why not stick one of these under your cowls... =20 http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/eppages/gennipod.php =20 =20 =20 Eric Deslauriers, CPA, CMA Directeur principal / Senior manager Juricomptabilit=E9 et =E9valuation d'entreprises / Forensic accounting and business valuation =20 1800, av. McGill College, bureau 600 Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) H3A 3J6 =20 Demers Beaulne S.E.N.C.R.L. T=E9l=E9phone : 514 878-0290 Cellulaire : 514 887-2136 T=E9l=E9copieur : 514 874-0319 edeslauriers@demersbeaulne.com http://www.demersbeaulne.com =20 =20 =20 P Avant d'imprimer ce courriel, pensez =E0 l'environnement.. | P Please = consider the environment before printing this e-mail. =20 =20 =20 De : Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] De = la part de ARGOLDMAN@aol.com Envoy=E9 : 17 juillet 2012 16:04 =C0 : Rotary motors in aircraft Objet : [FlyRotary] Re: Electrical =20 Anybody thinking about the LI (Ballistic) batteries. Their power and = specs (2-4Lbs) seem too good to be true. Apparently they have solved the = fire problem plaguing cell phone and computer batteries. =20 Starting should be no problem. I do wonder about their, as well as AGM, = capacity in the case of Alternator failure. (time with power) =20 Am knee deep in wiring as I write this. Trying to decide on dual = alternators. =20 The rotaries are hungry for electricity (EFI, EI, fuel pumps, etc).=20 =20 My primary alternator is the standard Renesis 100A type. I will = externally regulate it. The aux, --unknown --possibly a 20A B&C, I have = their aux that fits into the vacuum drive. =20 Rich =20 In a message dated 7/17/2012 2:35:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, = BRogers@FDIC.gov writes: The Odyssey PC 680 is more than enough to start your engine That is = what I use. See the following link. = http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc680series.htm =20 Bob J. Rogers Mustang II - N62BT Mazda 13b Turbo =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Tracy Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:18 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Electrical =20 I used Odessy (sp?) AGM type batteries. 17 AH in the -4, 28 AH in the = -8. =20 Tracy =20 =20 Sent from my iPad =20 On Jul 17, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Stephen Izett wrote: =20 > Thanks Tracy > I'll look forward to reading your notes when you can send it. > What battery/s do you/have you use? >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Steve > On 17/07/2012, at 10:04 PM, Tracy wrote: >=20 >> Hi Steve, I sent it to the list just before leaving on vacation. = Unfortunately I later found that the message got bounced for size = limitations. Can't seem to edit it down to size on this iPad so will do = that when I get back in August. Will see if I can find a picture = editing utility that works on iPad and maybe get it done sooner. >>=20 >> My RV4 & 8 have just the basics, stock RX-7 alternator and a single = battery that I check for capacity every annual. The significant = details are in the PHYSICAL details of the layout. Digital electronics = and inductive spikes from coils, solenoids, injectors, etc see a long = wire as an open circuit during the first few nanoseconds. This is the = factor that is most difficult for builders not familiar with electronics = to understand. This isn't important with carburetors, distributors & = points or magnetos but when you introduce a digital computer into the = mix it's a different story. >>=20 >> Tracy >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >> On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Stephen Izett = wrote: >>=20 >>> Tracy >>>=20 >>> Have you got any further with your electrical wiring description = you mentioned earlier. >>> Also, what setup do you have in the RV4 & 8 ? >>> What battery/s electrical system do you employ? >>>=20 >>> Steve Izett >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html =20 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD64EA.869318F4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Why not stick one of these under your = cowls…

 

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Eric Deslauriers, CPA, CMA
Directeur principal / Senior = manager

Juricomptabilit=E9 et =E9valuation = d’entreprises /

Forensic accounting and business = valuation

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1800, av. McGill College, bureau = 600

Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec)=A0 H3A 3J6

 

Demers Beaulne S.E.N.C.R.L.

T=E9l=E9phone : = 514 878-0290
Cellulaire : = 514 887-2136
T=E9l=E9copieur : 514 874-0319
edeslauriers@demersbeaulne= .com
http://www.demersbeaulne.com 

 

 

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De : Rotary = motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] De la part = de ARGOLDMAN@aol.com
Envoy=E9 : 17 juillet 2012 = 16:04
=C0 : Rotary motors in = aircraft
Objet : [FlyRotary] Re: = Electrical

 

A= nybody thinking about the LI  (Ballistic) batteries. Their power = and specs (2-4Lbs) seem too good to be true. Apparently they have solved = the fire problem plaguing cell phone and computer = batteries.

&= nbsp;

S= tarting should be no problem. I do wonder about their, as well = as AGM,  capacity in the case of Alternator failure. (time = with power)

&= nbsp;

A= m knee deep in wiring as I write this. Trying to decide on dual = alternators.

&= nbsp;

T= he rotaries are hungry for electricity (EFI, EI, fuel pumps, etc). =

&= nbsp;

M= y primary alternator is the standard Renesis 100A type. I will = externally regulate it. The aux, --unknown --possibly a 20A B&C, I = have their aux that fits into the vacuum = drive.

&= nbsp;

R= ich

&= nbsp;

I= n a message dated 7/17/2012 2:35:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, BRogers@FDIC.gov = writes:

T= he Odyssey PC 680 is more than enough to start your engine=A0 That is what I use.=A0 See the following link. http://= www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc680series.htm

<= o:p> 

B= ob J. Rogers

M= ustang II - N62BT

M= azda 13b Turbo

<= o:p> 

<= o:p> 

-= ----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:18 PM
To: = Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: Electrical

<= o:p> 

I= used Odessy (sp?) AGM type batteries.=A0 17 AH in the -4, 28 AH in the = -8.

<= o:p> 

Tracy

<= o:p> 

<= o:p> 

S= ent from my iPad

<= o:p> 

O= n Jul 17, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Stephen Izett <steveizett@me.com> = wrote:

<= o:p> 

&= gt; Thanks Tracy

&= gt; I'll look forward to reading your notes when you can send = it.

&= gt; What battery/s do you/have you use?

&= gt;

&= gt; Cheers

&= gt;

&= gt; Steve

&= gt; On 17/07/2012, at 10:04 PM, Tracy wrote:

&= gt;

&= gt;> Hi Steve,=A0=A0 I sent it to the list just before leaving on = vacation.=A0 Unfortunately I later found that the message got bounced = for size limitations.=A0 Can't seem to edit it down to size on this iPad = so will do that when I get back in August.=A0=A0 Will see if I can find = a picture editing utility that works on iPad and maybe get it done = sooner.

&= gt;>

&= gt;> My RV4 & 8 have just the basics,=A0 stock RX-7 alternator = and a single battery that I check for capacity every annual.=A0=A0 The = significant details are in the PHYSICAL details of the layout.=A0 = Digital electronics and inductive spikes from coils, solenoids, = injectors, etc see a long wire as an open circuit during the first few = nanoseconds.=A0=A0 This is the factor that is most difficult for = builders not familiar with electronics to understand.=A0 This isn't = important with carburetors, distributors & points or magnetos but = when you introduce a digital computer into the mix it's a different = story.

&= gt;>

&= gt;> Tracy

&= gt;>

&= gt;> Sent from my iPad

&= gt;>

&= gt;> On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Stephen Izett <steveizett@me.com> = wrote:

&= gt;>

&= gt;>> Tracy

&= gt;>>

&= gt;>> Have you got any further with your electrical wiring = description you mentioned earlier.

&= gt;>> Also, what setup do you have in the RV4 & 8 = ?

&= gt;>> What battery/s electrical system do you = employ?

&= gt;>>

&= gt;>> Steve Izett

&= gt;>>

&= gt;>> --

&= gt;>> Homepage:=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/

&= gt;>> Archive and UnSub:=A0=A0 http:= //mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html

&= gt;>

&= gt;> --

&= gt;> Homepage:=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/

&= gt;> Archive and UnSub:=A0=A0 http:= //mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html

&= gt;

&= gt;

&= gt; --

&= gt; Homepage:=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/

&= gt; Archive and UnSub:=A0=A0 http:= //mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html

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