Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #58533
From: Richard Sohn <res12@fairpoint.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: First lift off with single rotor
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:31:31 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Here is a picture of my intake. No float, but a pressure regulator.


Richard Sohn
N2071U

http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html

-----Original Message----- From: Tracy
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:30 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First lift off with single rotor

My guess is that it is not excess pressure that is the problem.   (we all wish we had more MP available  : ).
One possibility is  turbulence around the mouth of the carb,  had that happen on hod rods in my younger days.   I turned the air scoop on carb around backwards  and problem went away.  You running an air cleaner or other intake plumbing that helps smooth the airflow at the entry of carb?
Better yet, go EFI which isn't sensitive this problem!

Tracy

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On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:36 AM, "Richard Sohn" <res12@fairpoint.net> wrote:



-----Original Message----- From: Ernest Christley
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:12 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First lift off with single rotor

Richard Sohn wrote:
Cleared the ground for a brief period today. As far as the airplane is
concerned, everything is good. CG seems to be right on the spot. Much
better as it was 12 years ago at the first flight with the SOOB.
Here is the reason why it was not a flight. A few days ago when I
started high speed taxi, as soon as it picked up air speed, the engine
started to sputter and almost cut out totally. This was at the same RPM
as at a run up, where it does not do that. With a wiggly tail dragger as
the Avid is, there was no way reading enough instrument for making a
preliminary analysis. I recorded the instrument panel with a GoPro at
2sec intervals.
Looking at the first pictures, the answer came up right away, increasing
pressure under the cowl where the intake for the engine is located. Like
the EGT shot up over 1600 just before the sputtering started. Since my
radiator air is going to the outside of the cowling, there was no impact
on cooling. Btw cooling is really good. At an OAT of 95F, oil and water
stayed at around 170F no matter what I did.

For todays runs, I taped the inlet around the prop hub shut. Sure
enough, the sputtering occurred at higher airspeed, and was not as
total, however, EGT was still going to around 1600.

The conclusion is, I have to open the cowling exits a lot.

I don't get it.  The pressure under the cowl sounds like it would be a good thing, because it sounds like it is enough
to cause the engine to lean out.  If the cooling isn't a problem, why wouldn't you just enrichen the mixture to
accommodate the extra air and accept the increase in power?

Ernest,

I am not using electronic fuel injection. My fuel system operates pretty much like a carb with mixture control. In addition, I would not want to have to adjust the mixture when changing the air speed.
Your comment certainly reflects one advantage of EFI.


Richard Sohn
N2071U

http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html

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