X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com ([209.85.217.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.6) with ESMTPS id 5644301 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:12:02 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.217.180; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by lbbgj3 with SMTP id gj3so14388535lbb.25 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 11:11:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DdKCBzJ3MXI4dRyJz9mEq35yayVvaez8ECn2QxUyLgI=; b=t/ymN52g/sR3juZUL/6nhz60MoZLJFxyxBysZxcUcnZZIBVIBfWdxyyGexDoBwq6o0 9JrQE2WZnbKBFLkxTYaFE/wuPnhBhxMmhZit3//glixppLk3wvBAc4CF/ivLfqaHKuqu YCj/6lvR6IurrSh32L1/SuhpGa+a9gxer46nuZySjbw7B+Q3fEKUHQEgi4ZR+rOBdqb6 g4XMqWrC2JUKthXFo8epdnOaCVcIVk3l4RgDQOGV9vRWDL8wYRkJmspZ02Ka1Oc98pUi Xo70hzvJZG5T52sR3CwZaug2aAgFvAJc/ArW+n2Hhn3DxbD+s7SKpYKU8UdGIyyuHzb3 7cCg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.23.42 with SMTP id j10mr18633008lbf.20.1341857485583; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 11:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.54.144 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 11:11:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 13:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] On the step From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Brian, What's your fuel burn at 140-150 mph? How long are your intake runners? I assume you've checked and verified your static timing? What airframe is this? How does your performance compare to other a/c of the same make/model, but running certified engines? As Lynn H. has stressed many times before... the devil's in the details. Mark S. On 7/9/12, bktrub@aol.com wrote: > > I commented on here recently about how I took a cross- country flight to > Walla Walla from Everett, Wa recently and was only seeing 140-150 mph cruise > at 11,500 feet. It got me to thinking- I was getting about 6200 rpm on the > engine which is 2175 at the prop. So, I'm a little overpropped/ > underpowered. > > So, there's the old chestnut about how you can get a few more knots from an > airplane in cruise if you go a little above your cruise altitude and then > descend to your cruise altitude, thereby getting "on the step" . Some pilots > swear by this, others dismiss it. I have a theory- if I climb to a cruise > altitude and stay at full throttle while doing so, I will only get the > engine to run up to a certain RPM and therefore a certain hp will be > achieved, and no more and so the airplane will settle into an equilibrium at > a certain speed- say at whatever hp/speed - 140 mph at 6200 rpm- lt's say x > hp. > > Now, If I were to descend to my cruise altitude in a shallow dive, I will be > acheiving a higher rpm and hence horsepower, say 6800 rpm and horsepower > will be x + 9%x for a hp of 109% of the hp achieved at 6200 rpm, so I should > be able to achieve and maintain a higher cruise speed if I descend to my > cruising altitude. ( I picked 9% arbitrarily for the sake of argument) . > > Anyone want to shoot me down on this one? > > This is just an theory, If I want to go faster first I have to clean up my > drag. My cooling scoop is effective, but obviously draggy. And It needs a > flap on it. That's a project for this winter. > > Brian Trubee >