X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.6) with ESMTP id 5644142 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:48:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.39; envelope-from=CozyGirrrl@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q69Gm1EY001630 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:48:01 -0400 Received: from core-dsb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.13]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BC41EE00008C for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:48:00 -0400 (EDT) From: CozyGirrrl@aol.com Message-ID: <12e21.37a179a.3d2c6540@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] First lift off with single rotor To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12e21.37a179a.3d2c6540_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [69.155.31.230] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1341852481; bh=j9xFwFKEnMjc3/4j26EWqdHeVg/Qe0hkokMiVH4B5ic=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EugftbPmsYD7ddM/6y6BVuzcUGMmKDm2jolq0eyrScO2Awwr6tY/YKfy5/dGH1Unc ybygEBFAX1Ekr6oejaYqqm6DIoqXTmqY8GaVhr9/2JZa0mtSga8a6wKLnx6dGq8qNV 7gR3CXhr1CDVSY2CuP2YAixBMvUNfsADo8SCd4/8= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:332918080:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d4ffb0b402a91 --part1_12e21.37a179a.3d2c6540_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Congratulations Richard, it's a great start. Big "general rule of thumb" is give your exit (in a low pressure area) 150% of air inlet area. Think of the impact heat has on air in a hot air balloon plus the under cowl turbulence and slowing the air way down in there it is easy to see back pressure building up. It is a good starting point and you can always begin blocking off bits of both inlet and outlet once it all looks like it is cooling then you can begin working on lessening the cooling drag. Chrissi & Randi _www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/) ClickBonds 10/$7.50 CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop In a message dated 7/9/2012 10:50:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, res12@fairpoint.net writes: Cleared the ground for a brief period today. As far as the airplane is concerned, everything is good. CG seems to be right on the spot. Much better as it was 12 years ago at the first flight with the SOOB. Here is the reason why it was not a flight. A few days ago when I started high speed taxi, as soon as it picked up air speed, the engine started to sputter and almost cut out totally. This was at the same RPM as at a run up, where it does not do that. With a wiggly tail dragger as the Avid is, there was no way reading enough instrument for making a preliminary analysis. I recorded the instrument panel with a GoPro at 2sec intervals. Looking at the first pictures, the answer came up right away, increasing pressure under the cowl where the intake for the engine is located. Like the EGT shot up over 1600 just before the sputtering started. Since my radiator air is going to the outside of the cowling, there was no impact on cooling. Btw cooling is really good. At an OAT of 95F, oil and water stayed at around 170F no matter what I did. For todays runs, I taped the inlet around the prop hub shut. Sure enough, the sputtering occurred at higher airspeed, and was not as total, however, EGT was still going to around 1600. The conclusion is, I have to open the cowling exits a lot. Richard Sohn N2071U http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html --part1_12e21.37a179a.3d2c6540_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations Richard, it's a great start.
 
Big "general rule of thumb" is give your exit (in a low pressure area)= 150%=20 of air inlet area. Think of the impact heat has on air in a hot air balloon= plus=20 the under cowl turbulence and slowing the air way down in there it is easy = to=20 see back pressure building up.
It is a good starting point and you can always begin blocking off= bits=20 of both inlet and outlet once it all looks like it is cooling then you can = begin=20 working on lessening the cooling drag.
 
Chrissi &=20 Randi

www.CozyGirrrl.com
ClickB= onds=20 10/$7.50
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun= =20 Engine Workshop
 
In a message dated 7/9/2012 10:50:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 res12@fairpoint.net writes:
=
Cleared the ground for a brief period today. As far as the airplane = is=20 concerned, everything is good. CG seems to be right on the spot. Much bet= ter=20 as it was 12 years ago at the first flight with the SOOB.
Here is the reason why it was not a flight. A few days ago when I st= arted=20 high speed taxi, as soon as it picked up air speed, the engine started to= =20 sputter and almost cut out totally. This was at the same RPM as at a run = up,=20 where it does not do that. With a wiggly tail dragger as the Avid is, the= re=20 was no way reading enough instrument for making a preliminary analysis. I= =20 recorded the instrument panel with a GoPro at 2sec intervals.
Looking at the first pictures, the answer came up right away, increa= sing=20 pressure under the cowl where the intake for the engine is located. Like = the=20 EGT shot up over 1600 just before the sputtering started. Since my radiat= or=20 air is going to the outside of the cowling, there was no impact on coolin= g.=20 Btw cooling is really good. At an OAT of 95F, oil and water stayed at aro= und=20 170F no matter what I did.
 
For todays runs, I taped the inlet around the prop hub shut. Sure en= ough,=20 the sputtering occurred at higher airspeed, and was not as total, however= , EGT=20 was still going to around 1600.
 
The conclusion is, I have to open the cowling exits a lot.
 
Ri= chard=20 Sohn
N2071U

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