X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.169.203] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTP id 5570567 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 31 May 2012 11:12:18 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.169.203; envelope-from=bktrub@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q4VFBaQn003092 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 11:11:36 -0400 Received: from core-dud002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dud002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.66.197]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5EE67E000082 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 11:11:36 -0400 (EDT) References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector balancing In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: bktrub@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF0D56CE5FD779_8B8_6CDF_webmail-m087.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36210-STANDARD Received: from 50.46.146.205 by webmail-m087.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.201) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 31 May 2012 11:11:36 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF0D56CE5651E9-8B8-19FA@webmail-m087.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [50.46.146.205] Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:11:36 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1338477096; bh=hWKcY7/xvRH4ZQkB8d0pnRaP3XB83Lus27DwntW4DZg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wQixdrW0SnCmGPvFY9oSJcxjCcLwMIbVcEdaKGwE51kt7ZwxpUtkO5eWz2AHl9kt5 SAZxmRMEoRf/zLWvk5m4Vge0w4NQP+gd2gzBsUXxVcJvzFw3X/4F3hwZA23T2suM4Z 73JudNOiZyGt4gRLYO8RBrgKr5oW4p9jyYMDLx3E= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:455888928:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c94fc78a2815d3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF0D56CE5FD779_8B8_6CDF_webmail-m087.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've recently found that a 40 amp alternator is not sufficient to run a 13B= with electric fuel pumps and EFI. Seems the injectors take up a huge amou= nt of amperage at higher rpms. I'm fine on the ground,- at about 13.7 volts= , but when I'm running 5-6000 rpm, my voltage starts dropping and stabilize= s at a little below 12 volts after an hour of flying. I have two 18 AH batt= eries. I"ve got a Dynon D10, terra 250 Transponder, Xcom radio, EC2, EM2, a= nd two fuel pumps from RWS. I only run one pump at a time except for takeof= f and landing. Anyone know what the current draw for the injectors is at 60= 00 rpm? Looks like I need to add another alternator. Brian Trubee -----Original Message----- From: Steven W. Boese To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thu, May 31, 2012 6:45 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector balancing Mark, =20 I would really encourage you to try Ed's suggestion of disconnecting any ex= ternal devices from the fuel injector circuitry. The fuel injectors are li= ke any other solenoid device where the current required to hold it open is = only a small fraction of the current required to open it in the first place= . The likelihood that the connection to the external device is only made t= o one injector would make this an even more useful thing to try. =20 Steve Boese RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2 =20 ----------MB_8CF0D56CE5FD779_8B8_6CDF_webmail-m087.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I've recently found that a 40 amp alternator is not sufficient to run = a 13B  with electric fuel pumps and EFI. Seems the injectors take up a= huge amount of amperage at higher rpms. I'm fine on the ground,- at a= bout 13.7 volts, but when I'm running 5-6000 rpm, my voltage starts dr= opping and stabilizes at a little below 12 volts after an hour of flying. I= have two 18 AH batteries. I"ve got a Dynon D10, terra 250 Transponder, Xco= m radio, EC2, EM2, and two fuel pumps from RWS. I only run one pump at a ti= me except for takeoff and landing. Anyone know what the current draw for th= e injectors is at 6000 rpm?
 
Looks like I need to add another alternator.
 
Brian Trubee


= -----Original Message-----
From: Steven W. Boese <SBoese@uwyo.edu>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, May 31, 2012 6:45 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector balancing

Mark,
 
I would really encourage you to try Ed's suggestion of disconnecting a= ny external devices from the fuel injector circuitry.  The fuel inject= ors are like any other solenoid device where the current requir= ed to hold it open is only a small fraction of the current required to open= it in the first place.  The likelihood that the connectio= n to the external device is only made to one injector would make this = an even more useful thing to try.
 
Steve Boese
RV6A<= /FONT>, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2
   

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