Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #58136
From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fwd: Batteries
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 19:45:39 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
On 05/25/2012 07:13 PM, bktrub@aol.com wrote:



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Trubee <bktrub@yahoo.com>
To: bktrub <bktrub@aol.com>
Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 5:11 pm
Subject: Fw: Batteries



----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Brian Trubee <bktrub@yahoo.com>
To: Rotary engine <rotaryeng@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:11 PM
Subject: Batteries

I'm nearing the finish of my phase 1 testing, and am now looking for replacement batteries. right now, I am using two of these: http://www.power-sonic.com/images/powersonic/sla_batteries/ps_psg_series/12volt/PS-12180_11_Feb_21.pdf ;. They are on separate contactors, so I can use either or both when flying. I use both when starting. They are two years old, and today when I went flying I noticed that the voltage was getting down to 11.6 volts. after landing, the voltage was up around 12.3 volts. Usually I show around 13~13.6 volts when running. I always use a float charger specifically designed for these batteries when the plane is put away. Usually the float charger shows a slow charge, but when I cam back from flying today the charger was showing a fast charge, meaning that the batteries were discharged a fair amount. Any comments on the suitablitiy of these batteries and suggestions on how to test them out for holding a charge or otherwise deterining their suitablity or not for my plane. I have a 40 amp Nippondenso alternator, and run an Xcom radio, a terra transponder, Dynon D10, Tracys EM2 and EC2, and one fuel pump(at a time unless landing or taking off) that draws around 4 and no more than 6 amps.
 
Thanks,
Brian Trubee


Hi Brian,

I've run a Powersonic 18 AH battery in an Lyc powered  RV-4, & it was 'adequate', but could have been better. They sell a 20 AH starting battery that is much better for flying (the 18 AH models are really intended for UPS, rather than starting). You won't need to parallel 2 of the 20 AH units for starting. The 20 AH unit is the same length, but slightly wider than the 18AH units, and almost identical to the Odyssey PC680's (that are twice as expensive) that a lot of RV guys use. The Odyssey is kinda the gold standard for experimental a/c starting batteries.

Having said that, if you are seeing less than 13.5V in flight it sounds like you have a charging problem, rather than a battery problem. If you've been flying at less than that, the batteries have never been fully charged by the alternator (it takes close to 14 V to charge a 12 V lead-acid battery, both the old flooded cell and AGM types).

It sounds like your alternator or regulator is slowly dying. The batteries may or may not be OK after fully recharging them.

Charlie
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