X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from naeanrfkax10o.nmci.navy.mil ([138.162.5.154] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTP id 5560460 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 25 May 2012 15:16:40 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=138.162.5.154; envelope-from=luis.i.luciano@navy.mil X-AuditID: 8aa20599-b7c05ae000001f48-da-4fbfda754381 Received: from naeanrfkeg01v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil (gate4-norfolk.nmci.navy.mil [138.162.0.44]) by (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 8D.47.08008.57ADFBF4; Fri, 25 May 2012 19:16:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from naeanrfkeb14v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil ([10.16.20.117]) by naeanrfkeg01v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 25 May 2012 15:16:04 -0400 Received: from naeanrfkeb15v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil ([10.16.20.118]) by naeanrfkeb14v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 25 May 2012 15:16:04 -0400 Received: from naeanrfkez29v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil ([10.16.20.221]) by naeanrfkeb15v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 25 May 2012 15:16:04 -0400 Received: from 205.85.33.164 ([205.85.33.164]) by naeanrfkez29v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil ([10.16.20.221]) via Exchange Front-End Server webmail.east.nmci.navy.mil ([10.16.20.189]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 25 May 2012 19:16:03 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] High speed taxi part 2 w/nose lift From: "Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P" In-Reply-To: References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_97BA8207-6DB0-4D29-B15E-FCE51E7B71A7_" Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] High speed taxi part 2 w/nose lift Thread-Index: Ac06qs++G4cqbYFaS6WKKFw8dBbjdg== Message-ID: <005D3E35-D10E-4224-8692-C8BAE58BA811@mimectl> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Web Access 6.5.7651.60 X-MimeCtl: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7651.60 Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 15:15:56 -0400 Return-Path: luis.i.luciano@navy.mil X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2012 19:16:04.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[D43BE9C0:01CD3AAA] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== --_97BA8207-6DB0-4D29-B15E-FCE51E7B71A7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great to hear Chris! I'm finally at the Velocity Factory working on my XL = and can't wait for the day to be at your stage. Keep the reports coming...= I'm going to need them! Luis Luciano From: Chris Barber Sent: Fri 5/25/2012 2:32 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] High speed taxi part 2 w/nose lift After getting my DAR inspection and Repairman Certificate a few weeks ago, = I did two high speed taxi test with disappointing results. The engine temps= on my two rotor 13b rotary were extremely high. Well into the 250 degree r= ange after the long taxi (9000 foot runway) and the quick jaunt down 17R. O= bviously unacceptable. I did seem to avoid engine damage apparently by grac= e and the short duration.=20 Over the last few weeks I have focused on cooling mods. This time I followe= d the advice from Paul Lamar's book "How to Cool Your Wankle" more honestly= and put the oil and coolant heat exchangers under the engine and a bit int= o the airstream for solid ram air.=20 Today I repeated the long taxi for high speed taxi test 3. Outside temp was= 96 degrees. Temps down Hotel stayed around 165 degrees to Alpha. I had to = wait for a Grauman to take off. Ran the engine up a bit to verify mixture. = By the time I called the tower to take the active coolant temps had gotten = to about 185.=20 I took a breath and smoothly added power and started my run down the center= line. Speed came in as I brought power to just over 5000 RPM. I reached 60= knots really quickly. (posted rotation speed range). I retarded the power= a bit to maintain 60 ish knots took a mental breath....and raised the nose= . The nose actually lifted Holy crap....that is almost flight. I brought b= ack power and the nose settled (uh, by settled, I mean bounced ;-)).=20 Ok. While really cool to me, the coolest part was when I noticed that when = I checked the coolant temp just as the nose was down, the coolant temp had = DROPPED to the high 170's. A drop. Imagine that!!! I pulled off at Charlie and taxied back to my hangar with the temps around.= 185. They just hit 190 before I shut down. Again, it is in the mid 90's to= day.=20 I don't know about y'all, but this has been a pretty good day off so far.=20 Thanks for your support.=20 Chris Barber Houston KEFD Velocity SE/FG Rotary 13b turbo w/Mistral Intake RWS PSRU/EC2/EM2 Dynon SkyView SV-7 Sent from my iPhone 4 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html --_97BA8207-6DB0-4D29-B15E-FCE51E7B71A7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great to hear Ch= ris!  I'm finally at the Velocity Factory working on my XL and can't w= ait for the day to be at your stage.  Keep the reports coming... I'm g= oing to need them!
 
Luis Luciano


From: Chris Barber
Sent: Fri = 5/25/2012 2:32 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] High speed taxi part 2 w/nose lift

After getting my DAR inspection a=
nd Repairman Certificate a few weeks ago, I did two high speed taxi test wi=
th disappointing results. The engine temps on my two rotor 13b rotary were =
extremely high. Well into the 250 degree range after the long taxi (9000 fo=
ot runway) and the quick jaunt down 17R. Obviously unacceptable. I did seem=
 to avoid engine damage apparently by grace and the short duration.=20

Over the last few weeks I have focused on cooling mods. This time I followe=
d the advice from Paul Lamar's book "How to Cool Your Wankle" more honestly=
 and put the oil and coolant heat exchangers under the engine and a bit int=
o the airstream for solid ram air.=20

Today I repeated the long taxi for high speed taxi test 3. Outside temp was=
 96 degrees. Temps down Hotel stayed around 165 degrees to Alpha. I had to =
wait for a Grauman to take off. Ran the engine up a bit to verify mixture. =
By the time I called the tower to take the active coolant temps had gotten =
to about 185.=20

I took a breath and smoothly added power and started my run down the center=
 line. Speed came in as I brought power to just over 5000 RPM. I reached 60=
 knots really  quickly. (posted rotation speed range). I retarded the power=
 a bit to maintain 60 ish knots took a mental breath....and raised the nose=
. The nose actually lifted  Holy crap....that is almost flight. I brought b=
ack power and the nose settled (uh, by settled, I mean bounced ;-)).=20

Ok. While really cool to me, the coolest part was when I noticed that when =
I checked the coolant temp just as the nose was down, the coolant temp had =
DROPPED to the high 170's. A drop. Imagine that!!!

I pulled off at Charlie and taxied back to my hangar with the temps around.=
 185. They just hit 190 before I shut down. Again, it is in the mid 90's to=
day.=20

I don't know about y'all, but this has been a pretty good day off so far.=20

Thanks for your support.=20

Chris Barber
Houston KEFD
Velocity SE/FG
Rotary 13b turbo w/Mistral Intake
RWS PSRU/EC2/EM2
Dynon SkyView SV-7

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