X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com ([209.85.214.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPS id 5485724 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:51:56 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.180; envelope-from=keltro@gmail.com Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so5879312obb.25 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:51:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nYgCUg3KufX/RvdJeaAMPxBKcE4QfmDPmKZz0WCL0ko=; b=a+0XYLzH0cBT6j6FG59PCtkdHnRmhEya8UVnpHxKtB6+6sinDW7MBYO2FFh5D5Yugp aQMi2CaY4888Fos2a9WMYZ3nsg3wdgkz6ynutDOA70V9bghYA/YgOI512UMvtmFQHOUD LF7jx+vGIWmgc3CZ5gwpTxhVayF8YURrxBG3TgQstMuXlxBDJgvdd7p9J+YFIfY02qMc gh5ScdoqLA9CUOf9ZBVh4hCl2y1LyaxIagz+TowaSgOWt8t6hkqGuPABpC06uhg8SvGd ZB//1s7oK/DhUY20xiPs7S0RRHyzYM36x9l1bDw9YsNRNykiD3qJ3omvnXlO2JEs0+8A Yjow== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.155.35 with SMTP id vt3mr23500191obb.63.1334692280204; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.165.67 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:51:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:51:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Laser Ignition, was: [FlyRotary] Re: The 16X is A L I V E... From: Kelly Troyer To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0446326e3efcaa04bde54305 --f46d0446326e3efcaa04bde54305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Bill...........Are you aware of any other cycle or auto "COP" units that may be out there that can also be checked out for possible rotary use ??............. Kelly Troyer On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:47 AM, William Jepson wrote: > Kelly, I found these photos of the coils you can get an idea of what they > look like. Bill > On Apr 16, 2012 5:07 PM, "Kelly Troyer" wrote: > >> Bill, >> Would you happen to have a photo of the "Coil On Plug" of your Yamaha >> ??...............Interested in how they >> are secured to the sparkplug............... >> >> Kelly Troyer >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:32 AM, William Jepson wrote: >> >>> Ok folks the thing is all you need is a SUCCESSFUL spark. It does not >>> matter if the ignition is caused by a electrical spark or laser. The >>> important thing is reliability. The motorcycle industry has been changing >>> to coil-on-plug systems. Remember that many of the sportbikes have redlines >>> over 13,000 rpm. These coil on plug systems can easily handle our rotary >>> needs. Using a programer to control spark it would be easy to trigger them, >>> and you could do a split or same time firing. We don't need bleeding edge >>> tech. We need easy tech. My Yamaha 1000 uses the coil on plug technology. >>> It is a 2008 model. We could harvest this tech for our use. The big >>> advantage is only low-tension switching island needed. Using coil on plug >>> you would have 4 coils on a 2 rotor. A single failure would only kill one >>> plug. >>> Bill Jepson >>> On Apr 13, 2012 9:38 AM, "Ernest Christley" wrote: >>> >>>> CozyGirrrl@aol.com wrote: >>>> > And all this will work only if the combustion chamber is always >>>> squeaky >>>> > clean, no deposits or film on the windows, once that happens it all >>>> goes >>>> > to heck quickly. >>>> > >>>> >>>> If you've got a film building up on the rotor housing's chrome face, >>>> aren't you behind the curve already? I could see >>>> it being a problem in a piston cylinder's head. I've had to chip off >>>> gunk with a screwdriver it had built up so thick. >>>> But they aren't constantly being wiped by an apex seal like in a >>>> rotary. >>>> >>>> >> >> > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > --f46d0446326e3efcaa04bde54305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Bill...........Are you aware of any other cycle or auto "C= OP" units that may be out there that can also be
checked out for possible rotary use ??.............
=A0
Kelly Troyer

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:47 AM, William Jepson= <wrjjrs@gmail.com= > wrote:

Kelly, I found these photos of the coils you can get an idea of what the= y look like. Bill

On Apr 16, 2012 5:07 PM, "Kelly Troyer"= ; <keltro@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Bill,
=A0 Would you happen to have a photo of the "Coil On Plug" o= f your Yamaha ??...............Interested in how they
are secured to the sparkplug...............
=A0
Kelly Troyer

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:32 AM, William Jepson= <wrjjrs@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok folks the thing is all you need is a SUCCESSFUL spark. It does not ma= tter if the ignition is caused by a electrical spark or laser. The importan= t thing is reliability. The motorcycle industry has been changing to coil-o= n-plug systems. Remember that many of the sportbikes have redlines over 13,= 000 rpm. These coil on plug systems can easily handle our rotary needs. Usi= ng a programer to control spark it would be easy to trigger them, and you c= ould do a split or same time firing. We don't need bleeding edge tech. = We need easy tech. My Yamaha 1000 uses the coil on plug technology. It is a= 2008 model. We could harvest this tech for our use. The big advantage is o= nly low-tension switching island needed. Using coil on plug you would have = 4 coils on a 2 rotor. A single failure would only kill one plug.
Bill Jepson

On Apr 13, 2012 9:38 AM, "Ernest Christley&= quot; <echristle= y@att.net> wrote:
CozyGirrrl@aol.com wrote:
> And all this will = work only if the combustion chamber is always squeaky
> clean, no deposits or film on the windows, once that happens it all go= es
> to heck quickly.
>

If you've got a film buildin= g up on the rotor housing's chrome face, aren't you behind the curv= e already? =A0I could see
it being a problem in a piston cylinder's head. =A0I've had to chip= off gunk with a screwdriver it had built up so thick.
=A0But they aren&= #39;t constantly being wiped by an apex seal like in a rotary.




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