X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com ([209.85.214.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPS id 5484185 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:07:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.180; envelope-from=keltro@gmail.com Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so4698025obb.25 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:07:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+hKLJgDFfNJlUTB4MrVNj9ylfCqCuq7HEM/1h/rxyjc=; b=tf8xE6tvsYuNZgu5WXsvAT6E75hCVGFeq2WhWKHj2OLvL3mgoYBtorf+rVX0bRlsws 4ii9dnJ+hptv2NbBrLlS/ajRP8yj6B5Xv2O9up7WbNf8V9yd4C5MX2bt4c5SBS9Jloa6 P2AnBrMoWr6urt5jgV0Lnuh+2/4Y5MiNLx5zb//ATBG55VgHoIdyUoHIf0+GTYphivv9 Oa+lAfV1c1w2vNJ37SBK3sTmEEyd+c7oKObrTxZVLwRu4GnjlV8CwDWdw4OvCALRagmR SN0u+N7kw6W8RJFPpE/Ikctj7txrvgFDrYlXQ1M739GMg+6CWA/Bi+pBqnM+5xX6C6Gr KxFg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.20.231 with SMTP id q7mr19065153oee.63.1334621226494; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.165.67 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:07:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:07:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Laser Ignition, was: [FlyRotary] Re: The 16X is A L I V E... From: Kelly Troyer To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c7721d690404bdd4b856 --e89a8ff1c7721d690404bdd4b856 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill, Would you happen to have a photo of the "Coil On Plug" of your Yamaha ??...............Interested in how they are secured to the sparkplug............... Kelly Troyer On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:32 AM, William Jepson wrote: > Ok folks the thing is all you need is a SUCCESSFUL spark. It does not > matter if the ignition is caused by a electrical spark or laser. The > important thing is reliability. The motorcycle industry has been changing > to coil-on-plug systems. Remember that many of the sportbikes have redlines > over 13,000 rpm. These coil on plug systems can easily handle our rotary > needs. Using a programer to control spark it would be easy to trigger them, > and you could do a split or same time firing. We don't need bleeding edge > tech. We need easy tech. My Yamaha 1000 uses the coil on plug technology. > It is a 2008 model. We could harvest this tech for our use. The big > advantage is only low-tension switching island needed. Using coil on plug > you would have 4 coils on a 2 rotor. A single failure would only kill one > plug. > Bill Jepson > On Apr 13, 2012 9:38 AM, "Ernest Christley" wrote: > >> CozyGirrrl@aol.com wrote: >> > And all this will work only if the combustion chamber is always squeaky >> > clean, no deposits or film on the windows, once that happens it all goes >> > to heck quickly. >> > >> >> If you've got a film building up on the rotor housing's chrome face, >> aren't you behind the curve already? I could see >> it being a problem in a piston cylinder's head. I've had to chip off >> gunk with a screwdriver it had built up so thick. >> But they aren't constantly being wiped by an apex seal like in a rotary. >> >> --e89a8ff1c7721d690404bdd4b856 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill,
=A0 Would you happen to have a photo of the "Coil On Plug" o= f your Yamaha ??...............Interested in how they
are secured to the sparkplug...............
=A0
Kelly Troyer

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:32 AM, William Jepson= <wrjjrs@gmail.com= > wrote:

Ok folks the thing is all you need is a SUCCESSFUL spark. It does not ma= tter if the ignition is caused by a electrical spark or laser. The importan= t thing is reliability. The motorcycle industry has been changing to coil-o= n-plug systems. Remember that many of the sportbikes have redlines over 13,= 000 rpm. These coil on plug systems can easily handle our rotary needs. Usi= ng a programer to control spark it would be easy to trigger them, and you c= ould do a split or same time firing. We don't need bleeding edge tech. = We need easy tech. My Yamaha 1000 uses the coil on plug technology. It is a= 2008 model. We could harvest this tech for our use. The big advantage is o= nly low-tension switching island needed. Using coil on plug you would have = 4 coils on a 2 rotor. A single failure would only kill one plug.
Bill Jepson

On Apr 13, 2012 9:38 AM, "Ernest Christley&= quot; <echristle= y@att.net> wrote:
CozyGirrrl@aol.com wrote:
> And all this will = work only if the combustion chamber is always squeaky
> clean, no deposits or film on the windows, once that happens it all go= es
> to heck quickly.
>

If you've got a film buildin= g up on the rotor housing's chrome face, aren't you behind the curv= e already? =A0I could see
it being a problem in a piston cylinder's head. =A0I've had to chip= off gunk with a screwdriver it had built up so thick.
=A0But they aren&= #39;t constantly being wiped by an apex seal like in a rotary.



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