X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-iy0-f180.google.com ([209.85.210.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTPS id 5305268 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:54:23 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.180; envelope-from=thomasmann51@gmail.com Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so105498iaz.25 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:53:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=I+k7nLUCdGaTfwIXLCtlB/PyobMvVQjuymxRkbBMBjQ=; b=nLvxtdn1iMBmoeQqQjK19RhvMxyUXvrBEoSbDdC4Tlf8eG0wS+tMHY2Ryode/zf4R6 O6SF1Sb65bGWJFJ4I4SEPGlDfveNINXAAcjMOwuoKU/HrtNQveBIy/7n/xcYIClRVSRU ijZI7ZpkkvxcyxVGRBkTEz6VeumNW89BfAB8U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.12.197 with SMTP id a5mr673411igc.6.1323906826914; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.141.130 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:53:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:53:46 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Low idle From: Thomas Mann To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae934095b224c8e04b416148b --14dae934095b224c8e04b416148b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm posting this response on behalf of John Slade who is using a ISP that is BLACKLISTED (one of many) _______________________________________________________________________________________ This is the message: Tom. Could you ost this to fly rotary for me? I know this is a pain, but this one's important.... Chris, I have idle set at around 800. Keep in mind that the higher the idle, the harder these canards are to land. Don't listen to the RV guys - they have flaps. Ideally you want the lowest idle you can get, that's not going to stall the engine on final. It's worth a bit of effort to try and tune for a lower idle, but this is the idle with the engine being driven by the prop, which is a different area on the tuning chart to the idle when stationary. You can only tune this area while airborne. I found this out when I first throttled back all the way on a high base, and the engine stumbled. I needed new underwear that day. So - lesson learned - test the throttle all the way back at altitude over the field before doing it on short final. Be ready to use both rudders to loose altitude if you set the idle high. With the IVO in full fine pitch the thrust won't be too bad, but with a fixed pitch prop idling at 1600 you'd be landing in the next county if you're fast or high on final. Regards, John --14dae934095b224c8e04b416148b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm posting this response on behalf of John Slade who is using a ISP that is BLACKLISTED (one of many)
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Tom. Could you ost this to fly rotary for me?
I know this is a pain, but this one's important....

Chris,
I have idle set at around 800. Keep in mind that the higher the idle, the harder these canards are to land. Don't listen to the RV guys - they have flaps. Ideally you want the lowest idle you can get, that's not going to stall the engine on final. It's worth a bit of effort to try and tune for a lower idle, but this is the idle with the engine being driven by the prop, which is a different area on the tuning chart to the idle when stationary. You can only tune this area while airborne. I found this out when I first throttled back all the way on a high base, and the engine stumbled. I needed new underwear that day. So - lesson learned - test the throttle all the way back at altitude over the field before doing it on short final.

Be ready to use both rudders to loose altitude if you set the idle high. With the IVO in full fine pitch the thrust won't be too bad, but with a fixed pitch prop idling at 1600 you'd be landing in the next county if you're fast or high on final.

Regards,
John
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