Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #56757
From: <Lehanover@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Eccentric Shaft Oil Jets
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 01:46:19 -0400 (EDT)
To: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
The eccentric shaft jets are used to squirt cooling oil into the interior of the spinning rotors. The spent cooling oil and foam, falls back into the sump through the center iron.
 
In cases where the engine is apart, some folks remove the spring and ball from below each jet and replace them with a Weber carb main jet 200 size. This removes the possibility that a piece of spring could eventually break off and find its way to the oil pump.
 
In normal operation, the spring and ball close off the oil flow to the jet when the engine is at idle. This is because the rotors need no cooling at idle speed, and the oil pump is a bit on the small side displacement wise, so the idiot light will blink constantly (indicating low oil pressure) at hot idle. When the RPM increase, Oil pressure goes way up and the centrifugal force lifts the balls off the seat and oil begins to spray into the rotors. 
 
I my opinion there is no need to add a Weber jet to the mix unless you have jacked up the oil pressure either by increasing the relief valve cracking pressure and,or add an aftermarket pump to run much higher than stock oil pressure. I use and external pump, big bearing clearances and 100 PSI oil pressure. I use 180 size Weber jets to limit
oil spray into the rotors. Note here that this is older engine data. The FD 93-95 twin turbo uses 115 PSI oil pressure, and I have no data on what the stock jet size is for that pressure. So when I say "Limit" oil spray, that means with Near FD oil pressures.
 
You can run the apex seals for quite a long time with no planned lubrication. The oil scrapers are not perfect, so some oil will get by the side seals and into the combustion chamber to lubricate the apex seals.
 
Older engines with poor oil scrapers get by just fine with the cheap plastic oil metering pump lines broken off and making a mess on the side of the block.
 
Crank case oils are designed to remain stable (not break down and not burn) at high temperatures. This is a great feature in the sump. It is not a great feature in the combustion chamber. We see here the same problem we see in small 2 cycle engines. Carbon build up. If you find you have run out of the expensive little bottle of 2 cycle oil for your weed whacker, you might just pour in some 10W30 Valvoline, and it will work fine and make lots of carbon and sludge but the engine will run, and you will get you weeds whacked. But you know better. The 2 cycle stuff burns pretty clean and it burns ash free, so it lubricates and then burns up and leaves in the exhaust stream.
 
For years the rotary was not supposed to use synthetic crank case oils, because they do not burn well at all, and stay behind in the form of carbon and sludge, that can quickly stick a corner seal or apex seal, in the bottom of a groove and leave you with a low compression, no start some cool morning.
 
So here is why the Richard Sohn's metering pump adaptor is so neat.
You can run a 40 or 50 straight weight synthetic racing oil in the sump for great oil cooling and the very highest film strengths and high anti foaming content. And have 2 cycle oil lubricating the apex seals without making a big mess of things. The very best 2 cycle oil is Redline synthetic, but far less expensive oils work pretty good as well.   
 
So if you were to land some day and find that the little 2 cycle oil bottle on the fire wall is empty, just fill it up and go about your business. It is very unlikely to have caused damage.
 
Premixing is a big pain, but is the very best way to lubricate the apex seals. The OMP adaptor is second best and, pain free.
 
Lynn E. Hanover
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/24/2011 5:44:47 P.M. Paraguay Standard Time, thomasmann51@gmail.com writes:
I know that many use 2-cycle oil mixed in with the fuel for their your rotary engine.

If you run it that way, is there any need to have the Eccentric Shaft Oil Jets or could they be plugged?
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