X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5135444 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:46:21 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.39; envelope-from=Lehanover@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p8P4jfB8028047 for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:45:41 -0400 Received: from core-moe002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.69]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EF0C0E00008A for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:45:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Lehanover@aol.com Message-ID: <9beb.6b934dda.3bb00bf4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Eccentric Shaft Oil Jets To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9beb.6b934dda.3bb00bf4_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [173.88.22.222] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:468223264:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29084e7eb1f418b1 --part1_9beb.6b934dda.3bb00bf4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _http://www.rotaryaviation.com/oil_injector_pump_adaptors.htm_ (http://www.rotaryaviation.com/oil_injector_pump_adaptors.htm) This is Richards piece sold by Tracy. Lynn E. Hanover In a message dated 9/24/2011 7:37:08 P.M. Paraguay Standard Time, wschertz@comcast.net writes: 2-cycle oil burns cleaner than crank case oil. Richard Sohn used to make an adapter that allowed the Oil metering pump to pull from an external reservoir for injecting 2 cycle oil. I finally settled on premix. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase one testing Completed -----Original Message----- From: Chad Robinson Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 5:44 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Eccentric Shaft Oil Jets On 9/24/2011 6:19 PM, Thomas Mann wrote: > So can the metering pump be modified to pull 2-Cycle oil from a reservoir > rather than tapping into the normal oil source? I see racers doing this on the rx7club and nopistons forums, but they have a good reason (usually they want to run synthetic, which doesn't burn that cleanly. In an aircraft, where's the benefit? Run out of OMP oil and you kill your apex seals (and maybe your housings if the apex seals break and drag around in there...) Run out of crankcase oil and you could seize the E-shaft. Both are bad, so you're going to have to pay attention to your oil quantity, and dino oil works fine. So... if you don't want to run premix, why not just leave the stock setup the way it is? At least that way you aren't introducing a new failure mode to the mix... Am I missing something? -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --part1_9beb.6b934dda.3bb00bf4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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This is Richards piece sold by Tracy.

Lynn E. Hanover

In a message dated 9/24/2011 7:37:08 P.M. Paraguay Standard Time,=20 wschertz@comcast.net writes:

= 2-cycle=20 oil burns cleaner than crank case oil. Richard Sohn used to make an=20
adapter that allowed the Oil metering pump to pull from an external= =20
reservoir for injecting 2 cycle oil.

I finally settled on=20 premix.

Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Pha= se=20 one testing Completed
-----Original Message-----
From: Chad=20 Robinson
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 5:44 PM
To: Rotary moto= rs in=20 aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Eccentric Shaft Oil Jets

On= =20 9/24/2011 6:19 PM, Thomas Mann wrote:
> So can the metering pump be= =20 modified to pull 2-Cycle oil from a reservoir
> rather than tappin= g=20 into the normal oil source?
I see racers doing this on the rx7club and= =20 nopistons forums, but they
have a good reason (usually they want to ru= n=20 synthetic, which doesn't
burn that cleanly.

In an aircraft, whe= re's=20 the benefit? Run out of OMP oil and you kill
your apex seals (and mayb= e=20 your housings if the apex seals break and
drag around in there...) Run= out=20 of crankcase oil and you could seize
the E-shaft. Both are bad, so you= 're=20 going to have to pay attention to
your oil quantity, and dino oil work= s=20 fine. So... if you don't want to
run premix, why not just leave the st= ock=20 setup the way it is? At least
that way you aren't introducing a new fa= ilure=20 mode to the mix...

Am I missing=20 something?

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