X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-wy0-f180.google.com ([74.125.82.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTPS id 5114462 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:17:55 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.82.180; envelope-from=wgeslick@gmail.com Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so4079415wyj.25 for ; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:17:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FtFF3R0DoPZcZ7AgxmPtULOz0To5Vyk2Aik/zMGbHJ4=; b=aN/UsxGJJyWcok5m6nRvxdV6Ws4Vu4atlGc/WlBxiHYBkTHWvs74zrz43H+NfT8wLw S6M1+LyIxyaxBTotRIpBaQbd0+c/w9GVqtcKCDyiZLfIsF1b+FUBDE5ewd3lSSABAJuk e4fP/rEMKBSMTjMnYtTIhFxeUHkQ4OKLI3F8M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.188.13 with SMTP id z13mr2694335wem.82.1315257438844; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.90.137 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 14:17:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:17:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: The good news and the bad news...... From: Bill Eslick To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367fa7466e381204ac383c32 --0016367fa7466e381204ac383c32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ed, I was most definitely there, and have photos to prove it! And Ed, I have enough actual glider time that I really don't need to challenge you in that department! You may remain the champ! (Please!) *Thanks everyone for your very kind words*. One just cannot predict how you will respond until the real thing happens. I have crashed several simulators in the last 40 years including F-4, FK-100, B-727, MD-80, DC-10, B-757 & B-767, but the real thing is definitely more impressive. It was just a total blessing that it quit when it did and not during the next 30 seconds. That would have meant lots more repairs, and maybe some on me too. I will be re-doing my panel now, so if anyone wants a GREAT deal on a Grand Rapids EIS set up for liquid cooling, or an EIS by Ed, or a couple of Van's fuel guages, let me know. Thanks again, y'all. You are a great group. Bill On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Ed Anderson wrote: > ** > Bob, Boy, I must have been out of it at Paducah flyin - I don't recall > seeing Bill there - in fact, I thought that only Steve Boese and I had the > distinction of both making down wind landings - Bill, must have had his > invisible strobe light on {:>). Wait is the "W" in Steven name for William? > But doesn't he go by Steve? Color me confused. > > Ed > > *From:* CozyGirrrl@aol.com > *Sent:* Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:48 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: The good news and the bad news...... > > You mean one of the several downwind landings made that morning? =) > I believe all of the fly in guests made a downwind landing on arrival. > > Chrissi & Randi > www.CozyGirrrl.com > CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware > Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop > > In a message dated 9/4/2011 3:43:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > bobperk90658@bellsouth.net writes: > > Bill, > I am glad that no one was hurt. It is a shame that the plane was damaged, > but it is good that repairs are in the making. > > I Will Send you pictures of your landing last year at Paducah if you like. > Let me know. > > Bob Perkinson > RV-9 13B > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bill Eslick > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Fri, September 2, 2011 10:51:50 PM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] The good news and the bad news...... > > I have been holding up reporting this until all the facts are in, but that > might never happen, so here we go. > > Good news: No injuries. > > Bad news: I have some work to do. > > Photos at: *http://www.tiny9.com/u/2101* > > On August 16th at 10 AM, I lined up for takeoff at my home airport (3600' > paved) into a 5 knot headwind. I had just finished changing the oil and > filter and plugs. Run-up was fine, so off I went. Approximately mid-field, > and a couple of hundred feet in the air, it suddenly and without any warning > became very silent. > > Hit the big switch which puts direct battery power to everything engine, > but no noise. No more time. At this point flying the machine becomes THE > priority. Dropped the nose and was amazed to see a little bit of runway > under the nose! I had fully expected to land in trees, houses or the river, > so I dove what seemed like straight down to capture as much runway as > possible while (somehow) holding the electric flap switch long enough to get > full flaps (noticed this later). Pulled probably my best round-out ever - > no bounce. Brakes to max and tail up for weight. I think my sub-concious > put it all the way on the nose to try to prevent going through the fence and > down the hill. Wheel skid starts about 200 feet from the stopping point. > Skid marks from the wheel pants, cowling and prop run about the last 50 > feet. It stopped nose down just off the end. The tail was still over > pavement. Pushed the slider canopy UPHILL, stepped out and down. Noticed > that I was not even scared by the whole event. Interesting. Never even > considered trying to turn around. Pre-thinking that non-option apparently > paid off. > > More good news. No FAA or NTSB as it was a non-reportable incident. > Didn't even bend the gear legs. Also, my neighbor crashed in a Challenger > about 10 minutes earlier at the city airport about 10 miles away. The > police and rescue types were headed that way (they had injuries) and were > not interested in my minor mishap. > > As for the engine. When we got it back to the hangar, the prop would turn > only haltingly. You could feel grinding going on inside. First try at > turning had it come up hard and stop. More fooling with it and it gradually > came looser and would turn. Really looked like something came loose in > there. Pulled a plug from each rotor and did a compression test. Rotor 1 > was 80-80-80. Rotor 2 was 2-2-2. More proof that something had come > loose. With that evidence, the insurance company allowed me to remove the > engine for inspection. What I found was a pile of ground up ceramic junk. > All the seals were still fine. Lots of time went in to finding where that > stuff came from. Went through every inch of the induction system. Finally > Jason Hutchison (my other on-airport rotary guy) broke the code. While the > RV was standing on it's nose, this crap from my burned-out Hushpower II ran > back up the manifold and in the exhaust port. That is what was grinding. > Crap. Now the entire thing is off the firewall including the engine mount. > All the wiring is disconnected (did not find anything loose or missing). I > spent the morning looking under the panel for any loose or broken wiring, > but found none. When I get the EC-2 out, Jason wants to plug it into his > plane and we'll do the plugs and injectors test. If that checks out, Tracy, > it is coming to you for a good look. I don't know what else to check. The > engine quit just like somebody reached over and turned off the ignition. No > stumble, no hiccup, just instant silence. I honestly do not know if the > prop was turning or not. I suspect not, due to the silence and the fact > that one blade is untouched. > > As you can see from the photos, there was something going on with Rotor 1. > Wear is apparent down stream from the plug holes and all 3 apex seals are > starting to chip in the center. There is quite a lot of carbon also on the > rotors after 170 hours. > > Going forward, I have decided to look at resale value for if/when my RV-12 > days arrive. This means putting a (gasp) IO-360 on it. The rotary has > given me a safe 10-year run (til now, of course), so I have no regrets, but > this is an opportunity to make some changes, and parts are already on the > way. I will still be hanging out at the engine tent at S-n-F and wherever > else gatherings happen. Hope to be flying by the first of next year.... > > I'm sure some of you will have suggestions about what might have gone > wrong, and I welcome any kind of speculation, but bear in mind I am just > looking at a pile of parts and wires at this point. Both fuel pumps were > on, tanks were over half full, crank angle sensor worked fine. > > Guess it's obvious that I now have a RD-1A, EC-2, EFI Monitor (Ed's), > Felix 68/72 and Props Inc 68/72 wood props and LOTS of engine parts (my > whole 14-year stash) available! And priced to sell! > > Bill Eslick > RV-6 13B/NA EC-2 RD-1A > 750 Hours > > > > --0016367fa7466e381204ac383c32 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed,

I was mo= st definitely there, and have photos to prove it!=A0 And Ed, I have enough = actual glider time that I really don't need to challenge you in that de= partment!=A0 You may remain the champ!=A0 (Please!)

Thanks everyone for your very kind words.=A0 One just cannot pre= dict how you will respond until the real thing happens.=A0 I have crashed s= everal simulators in the last 40 years including F-4, FK-100, B-727, MD-80,= DC-10, B-757 & B-767, but the real thing is definitely more impressive= .=A0

It was just a total blessing that it quit when it did and not during th= e next 30 seconds.=A0 That would have meant lots more repairs, and maybe so= me on me too.=A0

I will be re-doing my panel now, so if anyone want= s a GREAT deal on a Grand Rapids EIS set up for liquid cooling, or an EIS b= y Ed, or a couple of Van's fuel guages, let me know.

Thanks again, y'all. You are a great group.

Bill


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On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 4:41 PM= , Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
Bob, Boy, I must have been out of it at Paducah flyin= - I=20 don't recall seeing Bill there - in fact, I thought that only Steve Boe= se and I=20 had the distinction of both making down wind landings - Bill, must have had= his=20 invisible strobe light on {:>).=A0 Wait is the "W" in Steven n= ame for=20 William? But doesn't he go by Steve?=A0 Color me confused.
=A0
Ed

Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:48 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The good news and the bad=20 news......

You mean one of the several downwind landings made that morning? =3D)<= /div>
I believe=A0all of the fly in guests made a downwind landing on=20 arrival.
=A0
Chrissi &=20 Randi
www.CozyGi= rrrl.com
CG=20 Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop=
=A0
In a message dated 9/4/2011 3:43:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bobperk90658@bell= south.net=20 writes:
Bill,
I am glad that no one was hurt. =A0It is a shame that the plane was= =20 damaged, but it is good that repairs are in the making.

I Will Send you pictures of your landing last year at Paducah if you= =20 like. =A0Let me know.

Bob Perkinson
RV-9 13B=20


From: Bill Eslick=20 <wgeslick@gmai= l.com>
To: Rotary = motors in aircraft=20 <flyr= otary@lancaironline.net>
Sent= : Fri, September 2, 2011 10:51:50=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary]= The=20 good news and the bad news......

I have been holding up=20 reporting this until all the facts are in, but that might never happen, s= o=20 here we go.

Good news:=A0 No injuries.=A0=20

Bad news:=A0 I have some work to do.

Photos at:=A0=20 http://www.tiny9.c= om/u/2101

Bill Eslick
RV-6 13B/NA EC-2 RD-1A
750=20 Hours



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