X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.212.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with SMTP id 5092499 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:25:29 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.212.181; envelope-from=plumberben@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2011 12:24:54 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.239] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2011 12:24:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1048.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2011 12:24:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 503002.40203.bm@omp1048.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 61840 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Aug 2011 12:24:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1313411094; bh=+SnSkOqC0PUoodeE9HWEkQE1s+HpA71MQPZrru8pjTM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CeZ6dP2t/JaL/mlFOxqa6zFewSGwdvbx79yk+mKKvU59awDlKmebUuTnvaGDyfiCYo5kcZKqcLoEkuezOzGZWwGQRZWa0MhPdDDZyi0R4VN173XLOfQFcoE6VxU7GvVoxgbFa8BZa1e0mwpWEmXZHLncWh8maOrqMsOnofmJiOU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gdoEb6fpcTYrP3qn15OaQSoaxdeqkI2ZLjCK794GbsDSrCn/Ditu2b9EgdAKHpvggHSIo/pV3A2PzW9emhUiq7gApzNED3sg9pzSVcjC/ts1yGIcKwocDaibQ8dZewi6a4xtagymSHUaBiuT8O3j3f5Uo8oQOyGrDfzgc7tCZU0=; X-YMail-OSG: B.vMAdMVM1meS3W2dUTyXdKfH4yqQZUsS8XqiU444uy6rTM 8ebW.XcvYTcuT2U9UjKqYiue7v1NePlfWCZwQumUKP4UI150gSO5YAEgEaKB ns.u.u5p2OI92O7JHpoAs5pgjiftFP7NcuWvS8kZ0w5z5_FUz5PUgcF2lPqW Ak5Lpi6rJEEhZV4AvD.jSHOXbUnWiM39s0p7gV0cJXQ8xmpGqf0b06Fp9Rod QmsSTo4ixmgOqv84bb3Te2znDe5iDjMQdW97Des_UQIow3poKy6Fxto6LuYs 36CLz_heEetnUXwotUJGElcTpEFaOUF5Wj6pz2x1nNgZohL.8G1H.MHbLFad fXS24GeQHu6G4GI8hWjdw7WHXCnhnmiIGAQuqhesYs5EqmiGEWWpZUy0V6oR rswgycZ6exNsbtzMR96JmM784kSXeQ94gzGaSrVUgogiTTprvdyT1htqy_kw jgls66A-- Received: from [198.229.214.66] by web162015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 05:24:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.313619 Message-ID: <1313411094.52681.YahooMailClassic@web162015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 05:24:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Schneider Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Dennis Haverlah Fuel System...or any others, for that matter. To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-89321920-1313411094=:52681" --0-89321920-1313411094=:52681 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like a good idea. I have the same regulator, but opted to put in a p= iped bypass. Don't know if it works yet, but I don't see any reason it woul= dn't. I press fit a rivet into an AN fitting and drilled a .020" hole throu= gh the rivet, and piped it past the regulator. Yours sounds like a much simpler and definitely lighter solution. Good thin= king! Ben --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Ernest Christley wrote: From: Ernest Christley Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dennis Haverlah Fuel System...or any others, for t= hat matter. To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Monday, August 15, 2011, 12:37 AM =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A =0A =0A On 08/15/2011 01:27 AM, Ernest Christley= wrote:=0A =0A=0A =0A =0A =20 =0A I removed the 4 screws, wrapped up the base in some shop rags,=0A = leaving just the top of the post exposed, then used a cut-off=0A = wheel in my Dremel to make a deep scratch in the steel ball's seat=0A = on the top of the post. =0A =20 =0A I put it all back together, tested that the pumps made 60psi,=0A = regulated it back down to 50, then watched the pressure bleed off=0A = in about 5 seconds after I switched the pumps off.=A0 Then I went in=0A = the house to recover from the gas fumes. =0A =20 =0A This method doesn't add any weight, connections or extra hose, but= =0A is 100% effective at relieving the fuel line pressure on shutdown. =0A =20 =0A =0A BTW, what made me decide to do this was some reading I was do= ing on=0A the forums.=A0 The chamber in the base that holds the pressuri= zed fuel=0A also has an 1/8"NPT outlet meant for a fuel pressure gauge.= =A0 I was=0A considering using this for the pressure bleed connection.= =A0 Some of=0A the hot-rodders were complaining about how the Aeromotive= regulators=0A weren't holding pressure after the fuel pumps were shut d= own.=A0 They=0A traced their woes to poor machining of the steel ball's = seat on the=0A base's post. =0A =20 =0A Their spending time and energy to clean up the machining to make a= =0A perfect seal, so I went out and destroyed some beautiful machine=0A = work to make a terrible seal.=A0 Go figure. =0A =20 =0A =0A=0A --0-89321920-1313411094=:52681 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds like a good idea. I have the same regu= lator, but opted to put in a piped bypass. Don't know if it works yet, but = I don't see any reason it wouldn't. I press fit a rivet into an AN fitting = and drilled a .020" hole through the rivet, and piped it past the regulator= .

Yours sounds like a much simpler and definitely lighte= r solution. Good thinking!

Ben

--- On Mo= n, 8/15/11, Ernest Christley <echristley@att.net> wrote:

From: Ernest Christley <echristley@att.ne= t>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dennis Haverlah Fuel System...or any othe= rs, for that matter.
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lanca= ironline.net>
Date: Monday, August 15, 2011, 12:37 AM

=0A=0A =0A=0A =0A =0A =0A On 08/15/2011 01:27= AM, Ernest Christley wrote:=0A
=0A=0A = =0A =0A
=0A I removed the 4 screws, wrapped up the base = in some shop rags,=0A leaving just the top of the post exposed, then u= sed a cut-off=0A wheel in my Dremel to make a deep scratch in the stee= l ball's seat=0A on the top of the post.
=0A
=0A I pu= t it all back together, tested that the pumps made 60psi,=0A regulated= it back down to 50, then watched the pressure bleed off=0A in about 5= seconds after I switched the pumps off.  Then I went in=0A the h= ouse to recover from the gas fumes.
=0A
=0A This method do= esn't add any weight, connections or extra hose, but=0A is 100% effect= ive at relieving the fuel line pressure on shutdown.
=0A
=0A =
=0A BTW, what made me decide to do this was some reading I= was doing on=0A the forums.  The chamber in the base that holds th= e pressurized fuel=0A also has an 1/8"NPT outlet meant for a fuel pressu= re gauge.  I was=0A considering using this for the pressure bleed c= onnection.  Some of=0A the hot-rodders were complaining about how t= he Aeromotive regulators=0A weren't holding pressure after the fuel pump= s were shut down.  They=0A traced their woes to poor machining of t= he steel ball's seat on the=0A base's post.
=0A
=0A Their s= pending time and energy to clean up the machining to make a=0A perfect s= eal, so I went out and destroyed some beautiful machine=0A work to make = a terrible seal.  Go figure.
=0A
=0A =0A=0A
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