X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-vx0-f180.google.com ([209.85.220.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTPS id 5051222 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:13:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.220.180; envelope-from=fluffysheap@gmail.com Received: by vxd7 with SMTP id 7so5096703vxd.25 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:12:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wlYncw7mNuMkQifvhrRWSuYHO7LUXpdqhb4x4hiieUc=; b=WRAy8Rg/jwmkx06qwyQQgKlS8b8SQupzpZx9Rj/tnWgtJtvLUZh4uX79tBM2OAnvrU Xx8efHeRPY6RNQh2fQk2NjV2mgWhnnGs69gjy6ZYCbdJOHKopr87KYSeiNMtAVmU3ZqP 0Uf5uCwLg05Vo+r96Xq6YES3ckWjAkkGfBXHg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.177.36 with SMTP id cn4mr789819vdc.26.1310620351506; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.185.168 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:12:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:12:31 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Flywheel sizes From: William Wilson To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cc8e7caaa904a800944e --20cf3071cc8e7caaa904a800944e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The turbo flywheel is different (bigger). The reason for this is that the turbo cars have a much beefier clutch and transmission. This is also why it needs a different starter and has different teeth. Also, the stock flywheel is balanced differently from aftermarket flywheels. The aftermarket flywheels use the same counterweight as the auto transmission, and swapping the weights around is annoying, so that's another reason to not use stock flywheel. As for whether the manual flywheel could be used in place of the flex plate, I don't know as I don't really understand how the PSRU hooks up. I know the flex plate is different "somehow" as it takes yet another kind of starter. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > Dave, > > You may be right...............I am not at the hangar now so cannot do > serious measureing............They sell a different flywheel > block for the automatic...........It nests around the > counterweight................I think it is different than the manual > flywheel blocks > so as not to subject the thin auto flexplate to the 350 ft /lb torque to > loosen and tighten the eccentric nut.............Will measure > both flexplate and steel flywheel (diameter, fore , aft , etc) and report > as soon as possible................The flexplate and steel > flywheel both have 125 teeth which I hope indicates the same > diameter.............<:) > > > Kelly Troyer > *"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)* > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo > > *From:* David Leonard > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:38 PM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Flywheel sizes > > Here is some good evidence that we will not be able to use the flywheel in > place of the flex plate. > > On this page at Mazdatrix, scroll down until you see the tools labeled > "flywheel stopper" > > http://www.mazdatrix.com/ftools.htm > > Note that one of them fits the non-turbo flywheel BUT NOT THE AUTO. And > the other fits the turbo (Which I assume is different than the n.a. auto > since they don't list it there either). We may be stuck just trying to beef > up the existing flex plate. > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net > > > --20cf3071cc8e7caaa904a800944e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The turbo flywheel is different (bigger).=A0 The reason for this is that th= e turbo cars have a much beefier clutch and transmission.=A0 This is also w= hy it needs a different starter and has different teeth.=A0 Also, the stock= flywheel is balanced differently from aftermarket flywheels.=A0 The afterm= arket flywheels use the same counterweight as the auto transmission, and sw= apping the weights around is annoying, so that's another reason to not = use stock flywheel.

As for whether the manual flywheel could be used in place of the flex p= late, I don't know as I don't really understand how the PSRU hooks = up.=A0 I know the flex plate is different "somehow" as it takes y= et another kind of starter.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Kelly Troy= er <keltro@att.net> wrote:
Dave,
=A0
=A0=A0 You may be right...............I am not at the hangar now= so cannot do serious measureing............They sell a different flywheel<= /span>
block for the automatic...........It nests around the counterwei= ght................I think it is different than the manual flywheel blocks<= /span>
so as not to subject the thin auto flexplate to the 350 ft /lb t= orque to loosen and tighten the eccentric nut.............Will measure
both flexplate and steel flywheel (diameter, fore , aft , etc) a= nd report as soon as possible................The flexplate and steel=
flywheel both have 125 teeth which I hope indicates the same dia= meter.............<:)
=A0
=A0
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" = (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
&quo= t;MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From: David Leonard &l= t;wdleonard@gmail.= com>
To: Rotary mo= tors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Sent: Wednesday, July 13= , 2011 9:38 PM
Subject: [= FlyRotary] Flywheel sizes

Here is some good evidence that we will not be able to use the flywhee= l in place of the flex plate.

On this page at Mazdatrix, scroll down until you see the tools labeled= "flywheel stopper"


Note that one of them fits the non-turbo flywheel BUT NOT THE AUTO. = =A0And the other fits the turbo (Which I assume is different than the n.a. = auto since they don't list it there either). =A0We may be stuck just tr= ying to beef up the existing flex plate.

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4V= Y.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net



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