Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #55672
From: Al Wick <alwick@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: RD-1B failure
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:18:10 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Hi Ernest.
 
<Is the pictured shaft the input or output shaft?
The shaft pictured is the input shaft. It's 8.42 inches long. Spline at one end of shaft mated with drive plate. Helical gear at other end is the sun gear for planet cage.
 
<Is the basic idea to just put a stiff
<spring between the input and output shaft
 
Yes, that's the basic concept. Except the "spring" is solid if flex exceeds .005"
 
3 basic concepts to the redesign:
 
1) The original design controlled input shaft fore aft thrust by stopping movement at the two ends of the shaft. 8.42" apart. This makes the design sensitive to temperature. Clearance changed with temp. I controlled thrust on both ends of sun gear, only 1" apart. So temperature can no longer affect end thrust clearance. This also allows reduced clearance.
 
2) The "cage cap" I used acts like both a spring and stop. It flexes .005", then becomes solid when it touches end of output shaft. Wear marks on cage cap told me how often it flexed that .005".
 
3) I didn't allow any assumptions. I found ways to prove clearances...modeling clay is great way to measure clearance. Found ways to prove how just how much difference design made. Measured spline wear pattern width, etc. You could prove how much fore aft movement you have just by measuring wear pattern on your sun gear. Great way to forecast future fatigue failure. I even put a few kernels of white Styrofoam at thrust bearing to prove I had adequate oil flow. Operate drive for 3 seconds, take apart, foam moved from key location.
 
I know it's tough to follow my descriptions. One of those things you have to see to understand fully.
 
-al wick
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:19 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RD-1B failure

Al Wick wrote:

> I also came up with this wild idea I could have zero clearance at end of
> input shaft. I tried it and surprise, it worked. I called it a "cage
> cap". See my web site.
> http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index_files/Page404.htm


I'm not sure I understand.  Is the pictured shaft the input or output shaft?  Is the basic idea to just put a stiff
spring between the input and output shaft so that one is always pushed forward and the other always pushed to the
rear...eliminating the possibility of the input shaft building inertia?

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