X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ey0-f180.google.com ([209.85.215.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTPS id 5040634 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 13:04:15 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.180; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so1333287eyg.25 for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:03:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AY/Z5TWg47gPfVkBq/5iTB8bjU+ExMNS7kyqRs/6/5E=; b=Ol0OBSZ1pYkKbU8yfMHqfwH5rw2N6auUnR1xJdeHChpdrvK793Sdb4UlRyYLNKDPLX xBis3VdWz8tkN208TuytrfW5Ttt5yeu7f/5znUkFxDrfLV2gQM5ogIu28F3bHabe3PWc TS7R20G6rX8Z2TnQqNhXvzNRgjJoo0CIqadkY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.103.148 with SMTP id k20mr750187ebo.19.1309626217884; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.13.72 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:03:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Water injection system From: David Leonard To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502d479816d5f04a7191d03 --00504502d479816d5f04a7191d03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Kelly! Why didn't I think of Summit? Dave On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > Dave, > Try this link............... > > > http://www.summitracing.com/search/Part-Type/Water-Injection-System-Nozzl= es/ > > Kelly Troyer > *"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)* > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo > > *From:* David Leonard > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Friday, July 1, 2011 9:41 PM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Water injection system > > Bobby, > Thanks so much for the help. So, is that 100cc/min? Then in a 15 min ra= ce > I would only use 1.5L of ADI? If so, I could easly addapt my existing sm= oke > system to double as ADI injection. (It holds about 3 gal). That would ma= ke > it really easy! I would probably use 2 100cc and turn them on manually a= t > 40" - I am only using the system for a handful of races.. > > I didn't see just the nozzles on any on the Snow Performance web site. > Should I just call them? > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://n4vy.rotaryroster.net/ > http://rotaryroster.net/ > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bobby J. Hughes wrote: > > ****** > Dave,**** > ** ** > I=92m using an ET150 110V pump with 1/8=94 NPTF fittings. It=92s rated fo= r > continuous duty and weights a little over a pound. Snow Performance for > nozzles and fittings. I based the controller on the attached pdf. The LM= 339 > chip will allow you to control up to four different nozzles triggered at > different MP sensor voltages. So you could trigger a 60CC injector at 36= MP > and another 60cc at 40 MP etc. I run one 100CC triggered at 32 MP with no > intercooler for climb. **** > ** ** > http://www.clarksol.com/html/prodspecsET50-BPump.cfm**** > ** ** > > http://www.lovehorsepower.com/images/WI/Controller/water_injection_contro= ller_schematic3.jpg > **** > ** ** > Bobby**** > *From:* **Rotary motors in aircraft** [mailto: > flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *On Behalf Of *David Leonard > *Sent:* Friday, July 01, 2011 1:40 PM > > *To:* **Rotary motors in aircraft** > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: [Bulk] [FlyRotary] Re: GSL393/74028 Fuel Pump > Replacement/Fuel Leak > **** > ** ** > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Jun 30, 2011, at 11:42 PM, "Bill Bradburry" > wrote:**** > > It will be difficult to burn more than about 20 gal per with a rotary. > Maybe as much as 30 gal with a turbocharged 20b.**** > **** > Bill B**** > **** > > **** > > I was seeing upwards of 30 gph with my turbo 13B while running the pylon= s > at ****Reno****. That would be about 45gph with a turbo 20B. Course I wa= s > running really rich to be sure I avoided detonation.. Am trying to desig= n a > water injection system to use more boost and run a little leaner.**** > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net **** > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > > > --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net --00504502d479816d5f04a7191d03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Kelly! =A0Why didn't I think of Summit?

Dave<= br>
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Kelly Tro= yer <keltro@att.net<= /a>> wrote:
Dave,
=A0=A0=A0 Try this link...............
=A0
=A0
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" = (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
&quo= t;MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From: David Leonard &l= t;wdleonard@gmail.= com>
To: Rotary mo= tors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2011 9= :41 PM
Subject: [FlyRotar= y] Water injection system

Bobby,
Thanks so much for the help.=A0 So, is that 100cc/min?=A0 Then in a 15= min race I would only use 1.5L of ADI?=A0 If so, I could easly addapt my e= xisting smoke system to double as ADI injection. (It holds about 3 gal). = =A0That would make it really easy! =A0I would probably use 2 100cc and turn= them on manually at 40" - I am only using the system for a handful of= races..

I didn't see just the nozzles on any on the Snow Performance web s= ite. =A0Should I just call them?

--=A0
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-= 6 N4VY
http://n4vy.rotaryroster.net/
http://rotaryroster.net/

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bobby J. Hughes <= bhug= hes@qnsi.net> wrote:
Dave,
=A0
I=92m using an ET150 110V pump with 1/= 8=94 NPTF fittings. It=92s rated for continuous duty and weights a little o= ver a pound. Snow Performance for nozzles and fittings. =A0I based the cont= roller on the attached pdf. The LM339 chip will allow you to control up to = four different nozzles triggered at different MP sensor voltages. =A0So you= could trigger a 60CC injector at 36 MP and another 60cc at 40 MP etc. I ru= n one 100CC triggered at 32 MP with no intercooler for climb.
=A0
=A0
=A0
=A0Bobby
=A0
=A0
=A0
=A0 It will be difficult to burn more = than about 20 gal per with a rotary.=A0 Maybe as much as 30 gal with a turb= ocharged 20b.
=A0
Bill B
=A0

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I=A0was seeing upwards of 30 gph with my turbo 13B while running the pyl= ons at Reno. That would be about 45gph with a t= urbo 20B.=A0 Course I was running really rich to be sure I avoided detonati= on..=A0 Am trying to design a water injection system to use more boost and = run a little leaner.
--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.Rota= ryRoster.net
htt= p://RotaryRoster.net

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