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From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
Reply-To: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Water injection system
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Dave,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Try this link...............=0A=C2=A0=0Ahttp://w=
ww.summitracing.com/search/Part-Type/Water-Injection-System-Nozzles/=0A=0AK=
elly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_=
RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turb=
o=0A=0AFrom: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>=0ATo: Rotary motors in air=
craft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>=0ASent: Friday, July 1, 2011 9:41 PM=0A=
Subject: [FlyRotary] Water injection system=0A=0A=0ABobby,=0AThanks so much=
 for the help.=C2=A0 So, is that 100cc/min?=C2=A0 Then in a 15 min race I w=
ould only use 1.5L of ADI?=C2=A0 If so, I could easly addapt my existing sm=
oke system to double as ADI injection. (It holds about 3 gal). =C2=A0That w=
ould make it really easy! =C2=A0I would probably use 2 100cc and turn them =
on manually at 40" - I am only using the system for a handful of races..=0A=
=0AI didn't see just the nozzles on any on the Snow Performance web site. =
=C2=A0Should I just call them?=0A=0A--=C2=A0=0ADavid Leonard=0A=0ATurbo Rot=
ary RV-6 N4VY=0Ahttp://n4vy.rotaryroster.net/=0Ahttp://rotaryroster.net/=0A=
=0A=0AOn Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bobby J. Hughes <bhughes@qnsi.net> wr=
ote:=0A=0ADave,=0A>=C2=A0=0A>I=E2=80=99m using an ET150 110V pump with 1/8=
=E2=80=9D NPTF fittings. It=E2=80=99s rated for continuous duty and weights=
 a little over a pound. Snow Performance for nozzles and fittings. =C2=A0I =
based the controller on the attached pdf. The LM339 chip will allow you to =
control up to four different nozzles triggered at different MP sensor volta=
ges. =C2=A0So you could trigger a 60CC injector at 36 MP and another 60cc a=
t 40 MP etc. I run one 100CC triggered at 32 MP with no intercooler for cli=
mb. =0A>=C2=A0=0A>http://www.clarksol.com/html/prodspecsET50-BPump.cfm=0A>=
=C2=A0=0A>http://www.lovehorsepower.com/images/WI/Controller/water_injectio=
n_controller_schematic3.jpg =0A>=C2=A0=0A>=C2=A0Bobby=0A>From:Rotary motors=
 in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonar=
d=0A>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:40 PM =0A>=0A>To: Rotary motors in aircr=
aft=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Bulk] [FlyRotary] Re: GSL393/74028 Fuel Pu=
mp Replacement/Fuel Leak=0A>=C2=A0=0A>=C2=A0=0A>=C2=A0=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Jun=
 30, 2011, at 11:42 PM, "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:=
=0A>>=C2=A0 It will be difficult to burn more than about 20 gal per with a =
rotary.=C2=A0 Maybe as much as 30 gal with a turbocharged 20b.=0A>>>=C2=A0=
=0A>>>Bill B=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>>>=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>I=C2=A0was seeing upwards of =
30 gph with my turbo 13B while running the pylons at Reno. That would be ab=
out 45gph with a turbo 20B.=C2=A0 Course I was running really rich to be su=
re I avoided detonation..=C2=A0 Am trying to design a water injection syste=
m to use more boost and run a little leaner.=0A>-- =0A>David Leonard=0A>=0A=
>Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY=0A>http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net=0A>http://RotaryRos=
ter.net=0A>--=0A>Homepage: =C2=A0http://www.flyrotary.com/=0A>Archive and U=
nSub: =C2=A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=0A>=
=0A>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ar=
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<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; T=
ry this link...............</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><A href=3D"http://ww=
w.summitracing.com/search/Part-Type/Water-Injection-System-Nozzles/">http:/=
/www.summitracing.com/search/Part-Type/Water-Injection-System-Nozzles/</A><=
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<div>Kelly Troyer<BR><B><FONT size=3D4>"DYKE DELTA JD2"</FONT> <FONT size=
=3D1>(Eventually)</FONT></B></div>
<div>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine<BR>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2<BR>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil =
Manifold</div>
<div>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo</div>
<div><BR></div>
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=3Dfalse readonly=3D"true"></DIV><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:=
</SPAN></B> David Leonard &lt;wdleonard@gmail.com&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"=
FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Rotary motors in aircraft &lt;flyrotary@l=
ancaironline.net&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></=
B> Friday, July 1, 2011 9:41 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sub=
ject:</SPAN></B> [FlyRotary] Water injection system<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV>Bobby,</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks so much for the help.&nbsp; So, is that 100cc/min?&nbsp; Then i=
n a 15 min race I would only use 1.5L of ADI?&nbsp; If so, I could easly ad=
dapt my existing smoke system to double as ADI injection. (It holds about 3=
 gal). &nbsp;That would make it really easy! &nbsp;I would probably use 2 1=
00cc and turn them on manually at 40" - I am only using the system for a ha=
ndful of races..</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I didn't see just the nozzles on any on the Snow Performance web site.=
 &nbsp;Should I just call them?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>--&nbsp;<BR>David Leonard<BR><BR>Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY<BR>http://n4vy=
.rotaryroster.net/<BR>http://rotaryroster.net/<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv1137301347gmail_quote>On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bobby=
 J. Hughes <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:bhughes@qnsi.net" rel=3Dno=
follow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:bhughes@qnsi.net">bhughes@qnsi.net=
</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dyiv1137301347gmail_quote><U></U><U></U><U></U>
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l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dave,<U>=
</U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U></U>&=
nbsp;<U></U></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I=E2=80=
=99m using an ET150 110V pump with 1/8=E2=80=9D NPTF fittings. It=E2=80=99s=
 rated for continuous duty and weights a little over a pound. Snow Performa=
nce for nozzles and fittings. &nbsp;I based the controller on the attached =
pdf. The LM339 chip will allow you to control up to four different nozzles =
triggered at different MP sensor voltages. &nbsp;So you could trigger a 60C=
C injector at 36 MP and another 60cc at 40 MP etc. I run one 100CC triggere=
d at 32 MP with no intercooler for climb. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></div=
>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U></U>&=
nbsp;<U></U></SPAN></FONT></div>
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l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">http://w=
ww.clarksol.com/html/prodspecsET50-BPump.cfm<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></d=
iv>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U></U>&=
nbsp;<U></U></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">http://w=
ww.lovehorsepower.com/images/WI/Controller/water_injection_controller_schem=
atic3.jpg <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U></U>&=
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<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D3 face=3D"Tim=
es New Roman"><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;Bobby</SPA=
N></FONT><U></U><U></U></div></DIV>
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nter><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt=
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<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN s=
tyle=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPA=
N></FONT></B><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahom=
a; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <U></U>Rotary motors in aircraft<U></U> [mailto:<A hre=
f=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net">flyrotary@lancaironline.net</A>=
] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>David Leonar=
d<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, July 01,=
 2011 1:40 PM </SPAN></FONT></div>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">=
To:</SPAN></B> <U></U>Rotary motors in aircraft<U></U><BR></FONT></DIV><FON=
T size=3D2 face=3DTahoma>
<DIV><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [FlyRotary] R=
e: [Bulk] [FlyRotary] Re: GSL393/74028 Fuel Pump Replacement/Fuel Leak</DIV=
></FONT><U></U><U></U></DIV>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U>&nbsp;<U></U></SPAN></FONT></div>
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><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U>&nbsp;<U></U></SPAN></FONT></div>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman">On Jun 30, 2011, at 11:42 PM, =
"Bill Bradburry" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:bbradburry@bellsouth.net" rel=3Dnofo=
llow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:bbradburry@bellsouth.net">bbradburry=
@bellsouth.net</A>&gt; wrote:<U></U><U></U></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type=3D"cite">
<DIV>
<DIV>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&nbsp; I=
t will be difficult to burn more than about 20 gal per with a rotary.&nbsp;=
 Maybe as much as 30 gal with a turbocharged 20b.</SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></=
U></div>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&nbsp;</=
SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></div>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DAria=
l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Bill B</=
SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></div>
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l><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&nbsp;</=
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><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>&nbsp;<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></di=
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<DIV>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I&nbsp;was seeing upwards of 30 gph with m=
y turbo 13B while running the pylons at <U></U><U></U>Reno<U></U><U></U>. T=
hat would be about 45gph with a turbo 20B.&nbsp; Course I was running reall=
y rich to be sure I avoided detonation..&nbsp; Am trying to design a water =
injection system to use more boost and run a little leaner.<U></U><U></U></=
SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
<DIV>
<div class=3Dyiv1137301347MsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-- <BR>David Leonard<BR><BR>Turbo Rotary R=
V-6 N4VY<BR><A href=3D"http://n4vy.rotaryroster.net/" rel=3Dnofollow target=
=3D_blank>http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net</A><BR><A href=3D"http://rotaryroste=
r.net/" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>http://RotaryRoster.net</A><U></U><U=
></U></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>--<BR>Homepage: =
&nbsp;http://www.flyrotary.com/<BR>Archive and UnSub: &nbsp; http://mail.la=
ncaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>=
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