X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.123] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5021324 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:17:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.123; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=SOlsIBN44tkg4MqIq+y2aLZdhoA3kHpmiRsLue6rfnM= c=1 sm=0 a=rPkcCx1H5rrOSfN0dPC7kw==:17 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=oOGvE6QIAAAA:8 a=RMaiJEGVAAAA:8 a=aqbCFVM2AAAA:8 a=lLn4vtnTnfoSBvWErRoA:9 a=SSVkBRgW5qWgwabCmXEA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=dw6XmgibHwQA:10 a=tXcarIeGnVYA:10 a=E0nWgSthiVIA:10 a=FeQN90nXSYAA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=xI8OQNaodCQA:10 a=c9EzqnwR0tUA:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=mO9xUEwUqoXAVdaiE_sA:9 a=5Ok_U6xQ3u-rhtEAm2YA:7 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=rPkcCx1H5rrOSfN0dPC7kw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 174.110.167.5 Received: from [174.110.167.5] ([174.110.167.5:63622] helo=EdPC) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 33/20-15242-1EAD8FD4; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:16:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:15:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CC2B55.F416C810" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CC2B55.F416C810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All you have to do is look at the Sun & Fun Air Races - once Tracy Crook = started beating all the $$$$ special pumped up Lycoming engines with his = junk yard (old 13B) with his auto muffler hanging in the air stream from = his rather aerodynamic dirty Rv-4 (well, he once tried to seal some = seams with black electrician's tape to gain a few knots, but it just = ended up ballooning up and slowing him {:>)) - they all just became too = embarrassed - they stopped holding the races. =20 Did I mention that even in the race, he did not fly all out - still had = some emergency war reserve left in the engine. You remember what that = means - right Lynn?? They claimed other reasons, but we all know better {:>) Ed From: Kelly Troyer=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:07 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Tom and Greg, You guys know what will happen when you go to Reno and start = frightening the piston engine gang with your speeds.................They will change the = rules like the sports car guys did and either penalize you with rules (weight or class = change) or=20 outright ban Rotary engines from competing............... =20 =20 Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: Greg Ward To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 11:48:51 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B =EF=BB=BF=20 Hee, hee, hee, really? As I said, "you never know"....... Greg ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Giddings=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:57 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Greg: dang...thought I found another Reno Racer... I plan on racing my = Venture...I think it will be plenty fast. I have had some experience = with the Legacy. You souls see 300plus without to much trouble at 425hp. = That would get you in the Silver Sport Class Kind Regards=20 Tom Giddings VP Avionics Sales Midwest Avionics 200 Hardy Roberts Drive Paducah, KY 42086-0219 877-904-9966 tom@midwestavionics.net Online Store=20 www.midwest-avionics.com On Jun 14, 2011, at 10:41 PM, "Greg Ward" = wrote: A correction on this Tom. We hung Aerochia's speed mods on the AC, = which included leading edge fairings on wings, and elevators, and a = fuselage overlay, that in combination, are supposed to buy us several = knots of airspeed, and look great. NO racing in this guy's agenda at = Reno, unless we just get some amazing numbers when all is said and done. Greg Ward, Lancair Legacy N178RG, 20B still in progress ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thomas Giddings=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 6:18 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Greg: Thanks for the update.....wish I could report as much = progress on my Questair Venture. I am currently finalizing my dry = sump/engine mounting plate and should have a completed fuselage by = summers end or early fall.I am most likely a couple years behind you. = You mentioned Reno Mods...Are you planning on Racing in the sport class. = Also I think your choice of the Dynon Skyview through the Auto pilot and = transponder is a great choice. I sell a lot of Dynon to homebuilders. I = have a friend of mine who just installed the Skyview 10.5 in his Lancair = IV P. It really works nice and has a decent price point. =20 Kind Regards Tom Giddings VP Avionics Sales MIDWEST AVIONICS 200 Hardy Roberts Dr PO Box 219 West Paducah,KY 42086 877-904 9966 Cell; 727 858-1772 FAX:270 744 3466 tom@midwestaviation.net Online Store www.midwest-avionics.com =20 On Jun 10, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Greg Ward wrote: Hey Tom; Still Waiting for the final engine dyno tests, but in the = meantime, we have completed all of the Reno speed mods, landing gear, = lights, rudder, elevator, and aileron trim servo wiring. Totally = rebuilt the canopy and have been installing controls for the cowl flaps = at the radiator and oil cooler doors, and it goes without saying, hours = and hours of filling, sanding, and primer. We have finally settled on = avionics, we are going with Dynon Skyview, with the autopilot and = transponder, and we are excited about that. More as we proceed. Greg Ward, Lanciar Legacy N178RG 20B, still in progress. ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Giddings To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B I agree as well...It is fun to get Lynns take on = things....Greg I was just wondering how your project is going..How about = a quick update?=20 Tom Giddings On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Greg Ward wrote: Hear, hear. Greg Ward ----- Original Message ----- From: John To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:12 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] 20B Lynn, you are a rare jewel, bless you. JohnD ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CC2B55.F416C810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All you have to do is look at the Sun & Fun = Air Races=20 - once Tracy Crook started beating all the $$$$ special pumped up = Lycoming=20 engines with his junk yard (old 13B) with his auto muffler hanging in = the air=20 stream from his rather aerodynamic dirty Rv-4 (well, he once tried = to seal=20 some seams with black electrician's tape to gain a few knots, but it = just ended=20 up ballooning up and slowing him {:>)) - they all  just = became too=20 embarrassed - they stopped holding the races. 
 
Did I mention that even in the race, he did not = fly all=20 out - still had some emergency war reserve left  in the = engine.  You=20 remember what that means - right Lynn??
 
They claimed other reasons, but we all know = better=20 {:>)
 
Ed

From: Kelly Troyer
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:07 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B

Tom and Greg,
      You guys know what will happen = when you=20 go to Reno and start frightening the
piston engine gang with your speeds.................They = will change=20 the rules like the
sports car guys did and either penalize you with rules (weight or = class=20 change) or
outright ban Rotary engines from=20 competing...............  
 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo



From: Greg Ward=20 <gregw@onestopdesign.biz>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 11:48:51 = PM
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re:=20 20B

=EF=BB=BF=20
Hee, hee, hee, = really?  As I=20 said, "you never know".......
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom=20 Giddings
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 = 8:57=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = 20B

Greg: dang...thought I found another Reno Racer... I plan on = racing my=20 Venture...I think it will be plenty fast. I have had some experience = with the=20 Legacy. You souls see 300plus without to much trouble at 425hp. That = would get=20 you in the Silver Sport Class

Kind Regards=20
Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
Midwest Avionics
200 Hardy Roberts Drive
Paducah, KY 42086-0219
877-904-9966

On Jun 14, 2011, at 10:41 PM, "Greg Ward" <gregw@onestopdesign.biz>= ;=20 wrote:

A correction on this = Tom. =20 We hung Aerochia's speed mods on the AC, which included leading edge = fairings on wings, and elevators, and a fuselage overlay, that in=20 combination, are supposed to buy us several knots of airspeed, and = look=20 great.  NO racing in this guy's agenda at Reno, unless we just = get some=20 amazing numbers when all is said and done.
Greg Ward, Lancair = Legacy=20 N178RG, 20B still in progress
----- Original Message ----- =
From: = Thomas=20 Giddings
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 = 6:18=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = 20B

Greg: Thanks for the update.....wish I could report = as much=20 progress on my Questair Venture. I am currently finalizing my dry=20 sump/engine mounting plate and should have a completed fuselage by = summers=20 end or early fall.I am most likely a couple years behind you. You=20 mentioned Reno Mods...Are you planning on Racing in the sport = class. Also=20 I think your choice of the Dynon Skyview through the Auto pilot = and=20 transponder is a great choice. I sell a lot of Dynon to = homebuilders. I=20 have a friend of mine who just installed the Skyview 10.5 in = his=20 Lancair IV P. It really works nice and has a decent price = point. =20

Kind Regards

Tom Giddings
VP = Avionics=20 Sales
MIDWEST AVIONICS
200 Hardy = Roberts=20 Dr
PO Box 219
West Paducah,KY 42086
877-904 9966
Cell; = 727=20 858-1772
FAX:270 744 3466
tom@midwestaviation.net
Online Store
www.midwest-avionics.com

<Midwest=20 Aviation Avionics Logo.jpg>

On Jun 10, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Greg Ward wrote:
Hey = Tom;
Still Waiting = for the final=20 engine dyno tests, but in the meantime, we have completed all of = the=20 Reno speed mods, landing gear, lights, rudder, elevator, and = aileron=20 trim servo wiring.  Totally rebuilt the canopy and = have been=20 installing controls for the cowl flaps at the radiator and oil = cooler=20 doors, and it goes without saying, hours and hours of filling, = sanding,=20 and primer.  We have finally settled on avionics, we are = going with=20 Dynon Skyview, with the autopilot and transponder, and we are = excited=20 about that.  More as we proceed.
Greg Ward, = Lanciar Legacy=20 N178RG 20B, still in progress.
----- Original Message = -----
From: Thomas = Giddings
To: Rotary motors = in=20 aircraft
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, = 2011 7:02=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = 20B

I agree as well...It is fun to get Lynns take = on=20 things....Greg I was just wondering how your project is = going..How=20 about a quick update?=20

Tom Giddings

On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Greg Ward wrote:
Hear, = hear.
Greg = Ward
----- Original Message = -----
From: John
To: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Sent: Wednesday, June = 08, 2011=20 6:12 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = 20B

Lynn, you are a rare = jewel, bless=20 you. =20 = JohnD

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